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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:18 PM
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Dan Savage to xtian whose feelings got hurt by his comments: "Fuck your feelings"
Dan Savage

"The religious right points to the suicide rate among gay teenagers — which the religious right works so hard to drive up as evidence that the gay lifestyle is destructive. It's like intentionally running someone down with your car and then claiming that it isn't safe to walk the streets.

"Which is why I argued that every gay teen suicide is a victory for the religious right. Because, you see, your side does use those suicides to 'perpetuate agenda.' Tony Perkins and all those other oddly effete defenders of 'Christian values' and 'traditional marriage' will point to this recent spate of gay teen suicides to argue against gay marriage, anti-bullying programs, against allowing gay people to serve in the military—basically, they'll gleefully use these tragedies to justify what they like to call the 'Christian, pro-family agenda.'" - Dan Savage, responding to a woman who wrote to say that her feelings were hurt by his claim that Christians are responsible for gay teen suicides.

Read Savage's complete response. It begins: "I'm sorry your feelings were hurt by my comments. No, wait. I'm not. Gay kids are dying. So let's try to keep things in perspective: fuck your feelings."

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/10/homoquotable-dan-savage.html
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:26 PM
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1. It is impossible for me to agree with Savage
more than I already do. Well put, man, well put.



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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:30 PM
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2. ooooooo,
got me with that one.

Savage Love appears in the Chicago Reader, a great free weekly in, er, ah, Chicago.
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cleanhippie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:31 PM
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3. I cannot be accused of not having a sense of humor.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:32 PM
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4. K&R
;applause:
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:39 PM
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5. Direct link to Savage Love column


http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/10/01/sl-letter-of-the-day-sorry-nothing-fun

Will, it's a chore to have to click to a commentary about an original Dan Savage column to have to locate the link to the original.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:45 PM
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7. I think we disagree here...
Joe.My.God is where I found out about the article in the first place. Therefore I posted the link where I got it from. It also gives people here an opportunity to see what his readers have to say, should they so desire and, again if they desire, take part in the conversation.

Yes, I could have just linked to the full article, but that would be doing a disservice to Joe.My.God (at least that's how I see it).
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:45 PM
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6. Campus Pride vs Campus Crusade for you know who - one is love the other is not nt
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 02:57 PM
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8. This is SOOOOO kicked and recommended
:kick:
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 03:04 PM
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9. I agree, fuck those xtian bigots. nt
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 03:41 PM
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11. ...and of course
Edited on Sat Oct-02-10 03:45 PM by whathehell
only "xtians" are bigots.:eyes: and all "xtians" are "Right wing Repukes"?...NOT.

Check your demographics..Most PEOPLE in this country are Christian, at least in name, and No,I don't think most people in the country could be called "bigots".
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 03:45 PM
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12. and of course you've misconstrued my statement
to grind your axe
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 03:47 PM
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13. Sure...
as you've misconstrued mine to grind yours.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 03:54 PM
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 06:03 PM
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16. Here...Learn some manners:
http://www.emilypost.com/

After that, you may have to re-learn the DU Rules.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 06:33 PM
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17. Aren't false smears and baseless attacks bad manners? nt
Edited on Sat Oct-02-10 07:15 PM by mix
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 07:07 PM
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18. your lesson for the day:
learn some grammar--what a demonstrative adjective is--before you smear me w/o reason for being anti-Christian
http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000329.htm
"those," as in "those xtian bigots," as opposed to Christians who are not

:rofl:
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 01:09 AM
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23. Your lesson for today:
Edited on Sun Oct-03-10 01:10 AM by whathehell
Hyperbolic hissy fits get you laughed at.

Name-calling gets you deleted.:rofl:

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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 10:06 AM
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26. It was worth it, now hit the books before you smear w/o cause again
Edited on Sun Oct-03-10 10:40 AM by mix
and someone else comes to the same conclusion as I did about your judgment and reading skills.

Just trying to help.

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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 10:44 AM
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27. LOL!
:rofl:
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 11:11 AM
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28. laughter is always better than tears
:hug:
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 11:46 AM
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29. Because..
..of your devasting wit?

Sorry, bro..You're not there.:rofl:
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 11:59 AM
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30. Johnny Cash is a good example of a Christian who wasn't a bigot.

I think this picture sums up his attitude toward the "righteous."
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 01:27 PM
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33. Well, good...
We agree on something...But Johnny's not alone.

"Christians", despite some evangelicals who limit that term to themselves, consist also of Catholics and Mainstream Protestants, like Episcopalians and Lutherans, to name a few.

Those groups,In fact, outnumber the evangelicals.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 01:14 PM
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31. You edited your post and it's still is full of crap.
No where did he say the things you are implying.


Fail.

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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-04-10 03:42 PM
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34. Uh huh.....such a SUBstantial post
but "fail" to you too, bro, uh huh.:headbang:
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 03:14 PM
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10. Outstanding.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 05:56 PM
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15. Time for decent Christians to clean house & chuck the wingers, as they keep telling Muslims to do.
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 08:10 PM
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19. K&R
So their little feewings were hurt? Awwwwww. Now you know a taste of what GLBT people have been going through for centuries. It would seem the Christianists can dish it out, but the certainly don't seem able to take it.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 10:05 PM
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20. OH SHIT!
:applause:
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 10:12 PM
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21. Good for Dan Savage. This needed to be said.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-02-10 10:46 PM
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22. Never apologize! To apologize is a sign of exploitable weakness.
Like little Dickie Durbin blubbering on the Senate floor.
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 01:19 AM
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24. So...
Edited on Sun Oct-03-10 01:20 AM by whathehell
when the U.S.apologized for experimenting on unsuspecting Guatamalans,

this was a sign of "weakness"?:shrug:
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 09:55 AM
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25. recommend
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-03-10 01:19 PM
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32. Rec'd
Between these thoughts of Savage's on the homophobes and Matt Taibbi's on the Teabaggers, I'm encouraged. Enough is enough.
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