LGBTQ question

[hendo]

When did the Q get added to LGBT, and how is it not already subsumed by LGBT?

I asked this in a thread in GD and never got a response so I figured it would better to ask it here.

[meegbear]

1. I'm still trying to figure out when GLBT became LGBT ...

good luck.

[WillParkinson]

2. A gentleman knows...

Ladies always go first. :P

[meegbear]

3. But I thought WE were the ladies

[WillParkinson]

4. That's the problem with gay people...

Gender roles get so muddled! <lol>

[meegbear]

5. A sketch from The Kids in the Hall ...

Buddy Cole stepping in to take the place of an injured female softball player ...

Buddy: I'll handle this.

Female: But you're a man!

Buddy: (turning his head to the camera) Labels!

:rofl:

[xchrom]

9. Honey - my cocktails are muddled - I'm Fabulous. Nt

[Evasporque]

23. T first....TGLB

we have it all covered...I'm just sayin'

[GodlessBiker]

6. It's a generational thing. Many younger people use Q. Gotta stay hip.

[hendo]

14. So, is it an attempt to take back the word Queer? NT

[GodlessBiker]

15. Oh yes, very much so, and a way to be edgy.

[hendo]

19. I support edgy! ;)

[kenny blankenship]

22. Queer is so vanilla. "Edgy" is taking back the word Sodomite

[Glorfindel]

7. I'm still trying to feel comfortable with "gays and lesbians"

To me, it's like saying, "people and women." I wish there were a good blanket term that could actually be pronounced, like "The More Highly Evolved Ones." :evilgrin:

[polichick]

8. LOL - I think "people and women" too. nt

[TriMera]

10. I don't know when it was added but,

when I use it, it means Questioning. It seems to me that Queer is kind of redundant.:shrug:

[hendo]

11. Yeah, same here.. That's why I am confused ;) Nt

[La Lioness Priyanka]

12. A lot of people identify as queer, ESP people who have multiple id's within lgbt

A dear friend of mine is t and b, and prefers queer. I frankly prefer queer to bi too, as I find binaries in gender dumb. With every generation and with the growing people of color LGBTQI movements, the names are going to change.

For instance most black queers identify as same gender loving these days. SGL.

[hendo]

13. Hmm, SGL? So many acronyms to keep track of.

How about we stick with person :) We are all people who are worthy of the same love, rights, and respect as anyone else :)

[La Lioness Priyanka]

16. in identity politics, identities are imp. if we just stick with person

our differing identities of who we are as persons and the prejudices we face, get taken away

in a utopia person would be a perfect descriptor, but in reality not so much

[TriMera]

17. Thanks, Lioness. I like how you explained it. n/t

[hendo]

18. :) Oh, I agree. I just get confused with all the new acronyms

edit: and think people tend to spend way too much time focusing on our differences and not enough time focusing on our similarities.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

20. I think that's easily said when your concerns and input are not the ones ignored

People create new acronyms because they feel the old one ingores them. Miost of the new acronyms are creating by further marginalized groups who feel their needs are often ignored by 'mainstream gays'

[hendo]

21. understandable :)