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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 11:37 AM
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Kansas, read please and spread it, we need this out there
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whattheidonot Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 02:37 PM
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1. relocate.
if at all possible on this and other issues relocate to more reasonable states. leave these states to wither away. These states are also usually the ones into cutting back on everything. take your talents somewhere else. Wyoming of all places has stood up to this type of intrusion by the government. Their are many states that welcome talent period.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 03:01 PM
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2. You would actually expect
thousands upon thousands of people to just up and leave? It is not that simple and a lousy way to try to change things. We must fight this. We know we are going to lose, this time. If not all can leave do we not owe it to those who can't to stay and protect them, to fight for them? I love my state, not the current politics of it, but the state. I personally have very deep family ties here going back to the Free State fights of my Great and Great Great Grandparents. If they could stand against all of that do I now run? Sorry, there are too many of us with too much invested in this to just leave and my friends deserve every single one of us to stay and help them.

I think if I were GLBT I might feel differently since I would be under the gun in a much more personal way. As it is I am here for the duration, never give up.
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Meldread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 09:09 PM
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3. You're right.
I've often contemplated up and leaving my home state to flee elsewhere. I've considered both Massachusetts and Canada. Virginia is one of the least welcoming states for LGBT people in the country. Yet, I have to ask myself: Do I want to abandon all my family, friends, and the life I've attempted to build here because of... what? People who WANT me to leave? That seems silly and counter-productive. So, unless they're coming to round me up to place in a death camp, I'm leaving my feet firmly planted.

Even if I never see a single improvement, at least I get the small satisfaction of knowing that I didn't run away. As small as it is, it's still a victory - they can hate me all they want, but they'll never "win" so long as I continue to draw breath. It simply makes my every waking moment a refutation of their bigotry.
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whattheidonot Donating Member (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 01:27 PM
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4. ok
you have got to hit them where it hurts or it will keep going on. have to have boycotts etc on an economic scale Educate and dispute wild claims of bestiality etc
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-09-11 02:47 PM
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5.  What else can we do?
Yes we will lose but the fight has more to do with bringing public opinion around and exposing those bigots who would criminalize a group of citizens for what ever reason they seem to think makes it OK.

Our chair is going to be on OutQ this afternoon. We are not going to be silent. We want as much attention as we can garner. At this political point in Kansas history we have nothing else that we can do, we keep up with what we have been doing that had been surprisingly successful up to this point and scream real loud to make certain people know what is up now. Silence is our enemy. Our polls show that the majority of people in Kansas would not stand for this so we will make the knowledge available to them and take helpful pressure from any corner that might shame these politicians into accepting that they can't legislate like this. We have a few more tricks we are tossing around. We will not be silent, silence is acceptance. We may lose, and probably will with the numbers very hard against us in our governing body but we will not stop. Again I ask you, how can you stop when lives are at stake?
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