Majority of U.S. Catholics back gay rights in survey

[Ian David]

Majority of U.S. Catholics back gay rights in survey
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=214x273684

[joeybee12]

1. Having been raised a Catholic, this doesn't surprise me...

Catholics in the US split with the Church on a lot of issues....as do many western countries...you gotta wonder who Pope Ratso is trying to reach with his message of intolerance.

[MNBrewer]

2. Too bad the donated $ goes into anti-gay political campaigns

[ZombieHorde]

4. +666 nt

[IrishEyes]

3. I'm not surprised.

I'm Catholic and most Catholics I know don't agree with the church's official position.

[ZombieHorde]

5. I think belonging to a club one disagrees with both spiritually and ethically is strange.

God and ethics seems like a big part of Christianity, but I guess this is not the case for many people.

[Very_Boring_Name]

11. That's like saying the NFL is homophobic so people shouldn't play football

n/t

[ZombieHorde]

12. I don't think so. There is a difference between Catholicism and Christianity.

Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics.

[Very_Boring_Name]

13. And there's also a difference between catholics and the vatican

Let's use your own logic against you. Don't you find it strange that you belong to a "club" (the democratic party) that you disagree with ethically? Ethics seems like a big part of politics, yet you support them even though they are ethically bankrupt on the issue of full gay equality.

[ZombieHorde]

14. I don't belong to the Democratic Party becuae of their stances on certain issues.

I vote for Democrats because they have the best chance of defeating Republicans. If the Dems were a third party, I would not vote for them.

[Ratty]

6. When I call gay friends out on why they go to Catholic Church

They only smile condescendingly and say I just don't get it. Like the concept is too complicated to put into words. Seriously though, I don't get it.

[Ian David]

8. If they stop going, they will be damned to burn in Hell.

You know.

By their all-loving god.

[Very_Boring_Name]

10. Because there's a separate community apart from the vatican that is not homophobic

I was raised catholic. I went to church every single sunday for 18 years, there was never a single mention of homosexuality, abortion, or birth control. It was a place where you could see your friends on the weekend, and mingle with other people in the community, very very non political. Just because the vatican is full of douchebags doesn't mean the catholic community is. I'd wager the members of the church I went to as a kid are more liberal than 99% of the population.

[closeupready]

16. LOL - I want to say this since you raised this point -

I generally make the assumption with any openly gay people I meet that they are not religious - when they tell me they are, I back away (figuratively).

At some point or other, there will be conflict between the two, and the religion will win. I just can't be bothered to participate in such train wrecks, when I know how they end up (tragically).

[damntexdem]

7. Catholics have long had more sense than their hierarchy.

Even though American Catholics don't have the finely-tuned sense of anticlericalism that is found in majority-Catholic countries. Still, they're getting there.

[yardwork]

9. Among religious people, I've found U.S. Catholics to be among the least homophobic.

The vast majority of Jewish Americans are also very accepting of gay people. Protestants are the most homophobic, in my experience. They range from being kinda sorta "tolerant" - mainstream Protestants - to being the absolute worst homophobes of all - fundamentalist Protestants.

U.S. Catholics are usually very accepting of gay people. It always sort of surprises me but they don't agree with the Church hierarchy at all about this.

[closeupready]

15. It doesn't matter. The Catholic Church is not a democracy. Therefore,

since the Vatican is fundamentally opposed to gay marriage, that policy is what Catholics are supporting, with money and time and faith.

See also response #2.

[DeadEyeDyck]

17. u got it nt