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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:39 PM
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Gingrich: I'd Stop Gay Rights Progress
from Advocate.com

Former House speaker and possible presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich said he is going to work on slowing down the progress of gay rights, if he is elected president.

"I think my emphasis would be pro-classical Christianity," Gingrich said in a video interview with Bryan Fischer of the antigay American Family Association after addressing the Rediscover God in America conference, held over the weekend in Iowa. He cited the end of adoption services in Massachusetts and Washington, D.C., by Catholic-based organizations because their policies limiting the rights of gay and lesbian adoptive parents violated laws put in place after the legalization of marriage equality in both areas.

http://www.advocate.com/News/Daily_News/2011/03/28/Gingrich_Id_Stop_Gay_Rights_Progress/">Click Here To Read More (with video)


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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:40 PM
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1. "There's no difference between Republicans and Democrats... they're all the same!"
:sarcasm:

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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:57 PM
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3. Sometimes and sometimes not
The word Democrat has nothing inherent in what we believe the Democratic Party (or us as individuals, who proclaim to be Democrats) stands for, just like the word "tree" is an arbitrary connection to the object it refers to. There will be times that a Democrat is the same as a Republican, as well as the opposite. A history of the Democratic Party in the South proves this. The voter, particular the Democratic voter, has to take the initiative to figure it out. You can't just take someone's word that they're a Democrat. After all, Texas currently suffers under a Democratic Governor.


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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:55 PM
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9. Perry current governor of TX is a Republican.
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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 06:30 PM
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11. Are you aware of his history?
He was a Democrat longer than he's been a Republican, having switched to the GOP in 1989. He was (and was elected as) a Democrat before '89, his father being a Democrat as well.


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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 01:55 PM
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19. I didn't know that.
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The Philosopher Donating Member (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 05:20 PM
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21. Yeah, it's pretty much
a Southern thing, one President Johnson alluded to when he signed the Civil Rights bill. Not everyone went Republican right away, but they eventually shifted. There's still some hard headed hanging on to their D, even though they're R at heart.


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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:18 PM
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6. +1000
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 04:42 PM
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2. He's seeming to imply that gays cannot be Christian
And I would remind the Catholic Mr. Gingrich that a good many evangelicals do not consider HIM to be a Christian.

I'm not saying I share that view, but it is a point of view that is out there that many people have.
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:01 PM
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4. And thrice married person's progress, I'm sure.
Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 05:01 PM by GodlessBiker
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:10 PM
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5. back in the sixties, I knew of a case where the catholic adoption
agency took back a child from a couple because it found out the child had some learning problems (apparently it was a little slow). the adopting couple wanted to keep the child, but the catholic agency would not allow this, figuring the child was damaged goods. Now tell me how going back to the old ways and not allowing gays to adopt is superior to what we have now. Tell me how allowing children with AIDS to die in a nursery is superior to allowing the kids to go to live with gays. In the 80s it was gay men who stepped forward and took AIDS babies home to care for them. Some of those children survived and grew up. Tell me how allowing babies to be born, then abandoning them to an orphanage is better than allowing abortions, and allowing gays to adopt. Newt, get a brain. But then you might have to earn less money off of the stupid right wing republicans.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:28 PM
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7. One would think he'd have choked to death on the Host by now.
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Swede Atlanta Donating Member (906 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 05:32 PM
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8. He is pandering................
but all the same for a man that left his wife on her deathbed, has admitted to committing adultery and lies at every turn to claim he would return to pro-classical Christianity is a joke.

He is old school Repuke where Gays, God and Guns ruled. Thankfully even younger conservatives are turning away from the old playbook of dividing the nation on the basis of social issues. They are still a despicable group that is defined by greed but at least they aren't so focused on social issues.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 06:22 PM
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10. Anyone who's been through multiple divorces has no right to say who can or cannot marry.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:28 PM
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15. Don't let the divorces distract you from the adultery.
Newt cheated on his first wife before divorcing her, then cheated on his second wife before divorcing her.

He wants "classical Christianity"? In his case, I believe that would mean death by stoning. Volunteers can probably be found.
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IrishEyes Donating Member (178 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 06:50 PM
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12. God, I hate that guy
I remember him from the 90s. I hoped that he had disappeared but now he's back and he wants to be president.
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 07:24 PM
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13. I'd bet his attempts to 'slow down' gay rights would blow up in his face if he tried as president
Momentum on gay rights is on equality's side, you won't convince people to become antiequality just by spouting the same viral and hatred that falls flat on people who support gay rights.

If Newt was president in 2 years and launched a war on gays I'd be willing to bet that it would just blow up in Newt's face. Either the legal system/states would strike down all his attacks on gays, or his attacks on gays will be viewed as insensitive in the media/blogs and turn people against him and his position. It's happened before, when racist whites went too far in trying to fight African American's demands for equality.

I think despite the antigay bigots being more motivated to come out and vote (based on votes in places like Maine) that gay right's support would have the numbers to overcome that nationwide by 2013. Polls have shown gay rights support as high as 53% right now, and support nationwide for gay marriage tends to go up nearly 2% each year.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 07:26 PM
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14. Newt is a real classical guy.
:rofl:

--imm
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costahawk1987 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:50 PM
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16. "pro-classical Christianity?"
As in stone the adulterers? As in all that stuff about hypocrites? Newt will get eaten alive in the con primaries. Too many of his skeletons are dancing around in public.
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-28-11 08:56 PM
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17. Thank goodness the thrice married hyprocrite is there to save the nation from Teh Gay
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MNBrewer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 10:24 AM
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18. Newt is a classical example
of how pseudo-intellectuals put the the word "classical" into their sentences to appear smarter. Another oft used example is "classical Liberalism".
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 02:28 PM
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20. Gingrich is a creepy bigot! n/t
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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-29-11 09:32 PM
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22. That shit-for-brains will never be the republican nominee, let alone president.
Not even the repukes want that toad.
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-31-11 02:57 AM
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23. Gingrich Can Take His Pro-Classical Christianity Stance...
and stick it where the sun doesn't shine!
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