Kind of a rant, general random thoughts I wanted to just throw out there (LONG)

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I've known gay people being raised in nuclear families who are physically abused and injured by their fathers. And who were rejected by both parents (and siblings, though that's less common) due to their sexuality. Literally thrown out on the street, forced to make their own ways.

And I think a lot of gay people are raised in homes where people WANT to believe they love their gay children without reservation, but they really don't. They don't want their gay children to be gay, they don't encourage them to form relationships with other gay peers, they actually would prefer their gay children die than have to face dealing with an openly gay child. It's just so fucked up. Leads to gay people with fucked-up personalities, sadly.

As an openly gay person, I often meet men who have sex with men but can't bring themselves to admit that they are gay - sometimes, they aren't gay but bi, but often times it's only due to such hostile families, or homophobic cultural backgrounds. It's difficult for me to get involved with such people with whom relationships are likely to be dead-end, and the tragic thing is that a gay relationship is exactly what they need - but what can you do? They think they are fine with sex and nothing more. Had many, many boyfriends like that. :cry: One of them recently called me but I didn't pick up even though I miss seeing him a lot, because I knew it was essentially for one thing - not that I don't want or need that, but I don't want to fall in love with someone like that, and I have and could again, if I don't control it.

Can anyone relate to that? Peaceful, flame-free discussion. :)

[FreeState]

1. Yep I can relate

My partner and I have friends, a couple of a 8 years, that are not out. They are so paranoid they defriended us on Facebook. It's very unhealthy for them, and all those that are their family and friends.

When I was single I dated several people that were either closeted or in the process of coming out. While I believe relationships can happen at anytime, for me I came to learn that the only person I could have a complete whole relationship with was one who was out 100%. The same goes for friendships, while I have friends that are closeted their friendships are nowhere near as strong as they would be if they were out.

It's a very sad thing to see people not live a full life because they are afraid. Its very sad.

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4. Yep, you get it. It can be very hard for me, because

it is very sad, and aggravating. Seems kind of pointless, for those who come here from elsewhere, to come to a country like this only to let yourself be bound voluntarily by social restrictions of your home country. Sigh.

[costahawk1987]

2. I lived like that most of my life.

I'm in my 40s and just recently told almost everybody. I'm not ready to lose my brother, my nephews and my oldest friend over it yet. It's bound to happen though, and it breaks my heart. But we're literally fighting for our lives, and it might lessen the hate to tell them, so I've got to find the guts to do so. The battles fought by others made it easier for me with most of my family and friends. So it's time for me to fully join the fight and hopefully make it easier for others.

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3. The flip side of coming out, today, is that unlike the days when I came out,

people seem to be more supportive. So I wish you all the luck and supportiveness in the world, costa. :hi: :hug:

[queerart]

5. Just A Thought..... And A Few Hugs...

DO NOT RUSH YOURSELF COMING OUT TO OTHERS....


You will know when the right time arrives, and until then... don't stress it my friend.

[queerart]

6. Hugs To You Close n/t

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7. Back at ya!

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