Congress Begins Work On New Attempt To Pass Federal Anti-Gay Amendment

[davidinalameda]

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/10/102005fedAmend.htm

The Senate Sub Committee on the Judiciary Subcommittee on the Constitution will hold hearings today in a new push to amend the Constitution to bar same-sex marriage.

Attempts by Republicans in Congress to pass the proposed amendment that defines marriage as a union between a man and a woman failed last year. (story)

The measure was reintroduced in January. (story) A House version was reintroduced in March.

[endarkenment]

1. Gay-bashing - the only issue left for them for '06.

They've managed to lose control of the agenda on every other front and are going to be running (if the Democrats have any sense) as the party of corruption cronyism and incompetence, so what else can the vile shitheads do? Bash them gays, of course.

[kevinbgoode]

2. It is absolutely amazing to me

that these people possess such deep hatred of other Americans that they would actually demand to amend the federal constitution to permanently make a group second-class citizens.

Conservatives love to claim that we all have the same "rights". . .but the most dangerous thing in the world is to attempt to define marriage in the Constitution because it suddenly makes marriage something defined by the government, rather than by the people in a relationship. This pandering to the Religious Right is enough - what we NEED is a constitutional amendment better defining the separation of CHURCH and STATE - and I can tell ya that is the one kind of amendment the fundies absolutely would hate!

[funflower]

9. Welcome to DU, kevinbgoode!

:hi:

[TaleWgnDg]

14. No surprise. After all, blacks weren't considered human beings

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No surprise. After all, blacks weren't considered human beings and are expressly stated as being 3/5ths of a non-voting entity (property) in our federal constitution. They didn't exist as to rights in law; that is, until the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments were ratified after the Civil War. Hell, the constitution has no mention of women since the inception of our federal constitution until the present day (except for the 19th amendment re women's voting). There's no express equal protection clause to protect women; instead, there's a reliance upon the *goodness* of congress to make laws and federal courts to interpret those laws that don't give them the full bang (no pun intended) in law as does the constitution for blacks in the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments as well as the Civil Rights/Voting Rights Laws of the mid-1960s. Go figure.

Therefore, it will be one very long time b4 GLBTs are given express equal protection via congressional laws, or more importantly via an amendment to our federal constitution to overcome the vicissitudes of both congress and federal courts.

And, btw, welcome to DU, kevinbgoode!


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[davidinalameda]

3. and in other news

'Protect Marriage - Ban Gay Weddings' Senators Told
http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/10/102005Senate.htm

[Ally McLesbian]

4. More like "screw ALL singles over, including straights"

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[funflower]

10. Welcome to DU to you, too, Ally McLesbian!

:hi:

[Dark]

5. GODAMMIT! Don't these sleazy fucks have ANYTHING better to do? n/t

[TaleWgnDg]

12. Well? The rightwingf*cks have recently found a mother lode . . .

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Well? The rightwingf*cks have recently found a mother lode . . . indeed.

Recent political history indicates that the good, solid, and honorable U.S.A. pulls a rabbit out of the hat periodically. Do you recall when the plaintive cry of the rightwingf*cks was "commie, commie, commie, pink-o, pink-o, pink-o?" That only lasted until the fall of U.S.S.R. but had a very long protracted and successful ring to it, more than 80 or so years!

Today, the newbie on the block to be demonized is GLBTs. And it's very hot and very *in* to do so.

It's useful to the rightwingf*cks in several ways:

1.) Such demonization and epithets deflect away from real issues.
2.) Such demonization etc congeals ignorant constituents together in ignorant unison.
3.) It fills campaign funds, etc.
4.) It gets votes.
5.) And it embraces their hypocrisy re Jesus Christ/God/strict interpretation (however erroneous, "Jesus said it, I believe it") of the King James Bible as well as the Roman Catholic faith and the Mormon faith and the Muslim faith and whatever other religious tenets that they can corral into their hypocritical tent.

Their chant is the three G's: Guns, Gays, and God = elected/$$$


as well as ober-conservative Roman Catholics, Muslims, Mormons (but not as president), etc.
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[Ally McLesbian]

16. This is precisely

why I am no longer Christian. It's no longer a religion, it's an evil political movement.

Not to mention that I see the Judeo-Christo-Muslim patriarchy as the source of the rampant sexism/homophobia in our society.

[Siyahamba]

6. There certainly aren't any more pressing issues facing the nation.

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[IndianaGreen]

7. A good reminder about DOMA

Democrats say the proposed amendment is not needed. The Defense of Marriage Act, signed into law by then President Bill Clinton prevents the federal government from recognizing same-sex marriage.

The President that gave us DOMA and "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" made our lives more complicated just at a time when we needed a friend. This is the same President that advised Kerry to speak out against same sex marriage.

I expect this crap from the GOP, but not from those that claim to be on our side.

[Maat]

8. This PFLAGer is sorry about this, DUers.

I get so tired of fighting them.

Not only are they hateful bigots, they don't even understand the purpose of the U.S. Constitution - to guarantee fundamental rights - both to the majority and the minority.

Tell me why I shouldn't think I'm living in a sea of idiocy again ... I get so depressed.

[funflower]

11. Sounds like the start of the Brownback for President campaign to me.

:puke:

[Ally McLesbian]

15. Yes, Brownback

The guy who is sponsoring legislations to bring in special-interest Korean immigrants en masse, so that they can continue to vote against our best interests and push the neocon agenda further.

Never mind that few of Brownback's Korean buddies actually live in Kansas. Nor that back in Korea, the reputation of the United States has sunk to a level where only far-right bozos still want to come here.

[TaleWgnDg]

13. An attempt at major defection away from . . .

rightwingnut f*ckups! re Plamegate, Fristgate, DeLaygate, and the rest of their corrupt *sses! Indeed. (see my other DU post in this thread . . . )