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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:50 PM
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Kansas Lawmakers Threaten Revenge Over Gay Prisoner Ruling
http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/10/102505kansas.htm

A recent Kansas Supreme Court ruling invalidating a sex offender's long sentence for sodomy could strengthen some legislators' resolve to change how the justices are selected or rein in the judiciary's power.

The court's unanimous decision Friday said the state could not punish illegal sex more harshly if it involves homosexual acts rather than heterosexual conduct. (story) The justices also struck down language in the law that led to a sentence of more than 17 years in prison for Matthew R. Limon.

Limon was convicted of performing a sex act on a 14-year-old boy in 2000, when Limon was 18 and already had two prior offenses on his criminal record. Had Limon or the other boy been a girl, Limon could have faced a maximum sentence of 15 months. National groups on both sides of the issue were watching the case.


:banghead:

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MORANS
MORANS
MORANS

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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 04:57 PM
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1. I guess the old saying is true
Your better off being in bed with a dead girl than a live boy.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:01 PM
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2. We saw this coming
for miles and miles. Damn. They were quicker than I thought they would be.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 06:38 PM
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5. Any chance the various chapters of Kansas Equality Coalition
could start a little earlier than planned? I know my chapter meets Nov. 6 but all the other chapters don't meet for almost a month. How pressing is this?!?

Here's a shameless plug for an organization that Muse has helped intelligently design (ala FSM) for anyone in Kansas or for those who know someone in Kansas: http://kansasequalitycoalition.org/
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 06:58 PM
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6. I don't know
but the other groups are still running for now. We won't let this go by. I don't know the calendar on this though, will have to find out. Something tells me it will be met with due resistance! It takes a while to dissolve existing groups and get the c4's running.

Pooh, I sat in the meetings and added a few little squeaks. It was intelligently designed (cute Mabus :)) by all the wonderful people who put up with me.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 10:22 PM
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11. They deserve to be shot. n/t
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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:04 PM
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3. This quote kind of summed it up ...
But Journey defended different treatment of illegal gay and straight sex, saying a homosexual relationship will damage a victim more because of how society views such conduct.

So then I guess the logical thing would be to continue the unequal treatment of gays instead of making any attempt to change society.

Thats the same kind of "Kansas-thought" that leads to the conclusion intelligent design is a concept kids should learn in school. What a shame the sodomy law was overturned, because there's a large group of Kansas legislatures who could no doubt be convicted of it for having their heads inserted so far up their asses.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 05:11 PM
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4. They need to politicize the court because they need the cover
Earlier this year it was uncertain whether public schools in Kansas would even open this fall because a judge in Topeka said the legislature's education budget was unconstitutional and under funded schools. There were special sessions that lasted into June and it got ugly. Now there is talk that some districts are planning of opting out of "No Child Left Behind" because of underfunding and "lack of progress". In Lawrence, where I live, both high schools - both of which churn out Merit Scholars - lost ground under NCLB. Farmers are feeling the squeeze because of gas prices and a further erosion into their younger generations because of the war. Three of our four congressmen accepted money from Tom DeLay - the exception is the one Democrat who represents my district. Not to mention the whole "Intelligent Design" crap they're still trying to get into our school's curriculum.

The RW has lost credibility locally and nationally, so now these morons are going to try to bait the sex angle so they can attack on the gay, judicial fronts and (make no mistake with Phill Kline as our RW AG) to go after underage sex (ergo abortion) to rally their base for the 2006 elections.


It is shit like this that made my best friend move to California. He talks about moving back but then this comes up and he talks about staying away.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:30 PM
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9. Is there some reason why some legislators
and...for example...that sorry excuse for an attorney general...can't be hit with a recall petition?
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 08:37 PM
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10. Recalls are expensive
and the elections are less than a year away.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:12 PM
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7. From Kansas, the state that Sam Brownback's proud to be the defendent in
Brown v. Board of Ed.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-25-05 07:27 PM
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8. Yep. . .this is the wingnut religious "Right" at work
the same ones who claims we have "all" the same rights as anyone else...except we are criminals.

We need names of every one of these little tantrum-throwing Nazi legislators and their re-election campaigns should be targeted. It's time to take the REAL garbage out of office.
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