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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:31 PM
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I need some aspirin....or Valium...or something
I have a headache after arguing with one of my friends tonight who is a Log Cabin, and said he hasn't ruled out voting for the GOP candidate in 2008.

Before I called him an idiot, I asked him why in the fuck he hasn't learned a lesson about trusting anyone on the right to care about gay rights (he voted for Bush in 2000 and Kerry in 2004, because he was pissed at Bush).

While they all same like nice people, I just don't get the Log Cabins . . . maybe others do, but I don't get it at all.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:36 PM
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1. Log Cabin?
I can't discuss politics anymore.
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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:41 PM
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2. Log Cabin Gays Make As Much Sense as Blacks in KKK
WTF?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:52 PM
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3. oooh I remember back in 2000, my black lesbian neighbor
telling me she was thinking about voting for bush - OMG I HAD A F***ING COW..........WTF??? I SCREAMED AT HER.....THEY HATE YOU......THEY HATE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE BLACK, POOR, A LESBIAN......AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :o
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:52 PM
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4. Think two male salaries
combined for one big income. The Log Cabiners actually GOT Bush tax cuts.

They're just voting their bank accounts and their portfolios. They don't give a shit about anything or anyone else.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-17-06 09:53 PM
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5. What do they expect to get from Republicans?
Their campaign donation checks are returned, the gay lifestyle is demonized by 90% of Republicans (and the rest are silent) and the religious right accuse them of destroying America.

I mean, sooner or later you begin to develop a CLUE.
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swimmernsecretsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 02:09 AM
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6. Stockholm Syndrome?
I can't explain it either. Maybe they think they won't get exterminated as quickly.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:54 PM
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13. LOL!
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:03 AM
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7. The Log Cabin Club . . .
Edited on Wed Jan-18-06 03:05 AM by TaleWgnDg
.

The Log Cabin Club (advocacy website) was founded in 1978 as an organization of conservative Republicans but for their sexual orientation. However, few females or other minorities are members. Typically, they are old school affluent traditionalists as to corporate America sans the neo-cons negative (religious and) social agenda. As such, they inevitable cling to the assumption that the national Republican Party does not contain a written platform which expressly trammels their individual constitutional rights. Isn't this what so-called "traditionalists" do? That is, keep their heads in the sand hoping and wishing for "traditional" conformity. To them, therefore, hypocrisy is the "norm."

BTW, Patrick Guerriero, executive director of Log Cabin, is a great guy. I know him. He's from Massachusetts and was the former mayor of Melrose, Massachusetts, and was on the Republican gubernatorial ticket with then-governor Jane Swift as the Lieutenant Governor's slot. Their combo was pushed aside when good ole Mittens Romney came to town from Utah and subsequently was elected the new Governor of Massachusetts.

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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 03:17 AM
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8. When people choose to be willfully ignorant despite any and all attempts
on others' behalf to educate them*, there is nothing that can be done. You merely have to, at some point, be willing to give up and let them self-destruct. As difficult and painful as it may be, you must accept that you can't save everyone.




People such as this are commonly called "Fuckwits".
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Scooter24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 04:23 AM
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9. Some of them think with their pocketbooks...
A few of my friends vote for the GOP because of their pro-business and pro-wealth approach to laws. Many of them don't care about marriage rights or those little personal tax savings because many of them have become complicit in either staying single, or having a long term relationship without the worry about post-marriage penalties if they should ever break up.

My friends (who are 22 and 23 years old) each have their own successful business and have become quite wealthy so they usually stay in their own happy world and vote without a care about anyone. As much as I love them, it's just sad to see some who think this way.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 09:39 AM
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10. don't bother
they're a waste of protoplasm as far as I'm concerned.

They come in two flavors: over-burdened with assets and income or stupid. Actually three, if "both" counts as a category.

Inevitably, they are willing to overlook or re-characterize Bush's stupidity and his cabinet's incompetence in favor of their tax cut or a chance to feel superior about belonging to a strong unified party.

I have nothing in common with them and have gone to some pains to cut them out of my social circle. It's been fun, because I'm a prima donna and even more wicked and opinionated in person; oh the outrage!!!!

Stupid queens.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 01:22 PM
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11. I do admire real conservatives or real moderates
who stick by their principles

some Log Cabinites fall into that category but with the current state of the Republican Party, I don't see how they can support Bush and his regime

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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-18-06 05:53 PM
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12. Yea, I agree. They're certainly harmless but misguided...
Most of the Log Cabin members I know are socially liberal.

MAybe I'm more upset about the fact that I think the GOP is taking advantage of them by wining and dining them, in a way, to get their votes, and then screw them after they vote.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 02:40 AM
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14. some people REALLY like their tax cuts
and dont care if some poor gay people get killed somewhere cos we couldnt get a hate crime bill passed

or gay people can be indiscriminately fired cos we couldnt get ENDA passed

etc
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-19-06 01:56 PM
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15. Well, he cares about those issues, but he wants it all.....
rights for gay people AND the tax cuts/conservative government spending.

Of course, I point out how large the deficit is under Bush thanks in part to the insane amount of cash we're throwing down the drain in Iraq.

Honest to God, it's like talking to a tree.
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