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kweerwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 07:26 PM
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Ex-Homosexual Ministry Leader: Brokeback Mountain May Be Tip of Iceberg
A former homosexual who now heads an international Christian ministry to individuals affected by homosexuality says movies such as the much touted mainstream media darling Brokeback Mountain are sending the wrong message to Americans about culture and sexuality.

Alan Chambers is president of Exodus Global Alliance, an organization that includes the largest evangelical network of former homosexuals and that promotes the message to people struggling with unwanted same-sex desire that change from homosexuality is possible through the power of Jesus Christ. But while Exodus is offering hope based on scriptural truth, the ministry leader contends that movies like the homosexual "romance" Brokeback Mountain are fostering confusion and desperation.

"They don't point to the truth that homosexuality is a very difficult lifestyle," Chambers says. "It's one full of desperation and devastation and heartache. And the great thing is there are men and women who have overcome that lifestyle. That's something I wish was more talked about in the mainstream media."

It comes as no surprise to Chambers that the highly publicized film about two male sheepherders who meet and carry on an adulterous homosexual affair across 20 years has received four Golden Globes and was also named the Best Picture of 2005 by the Producers Guild of America. Brokeback Mountain is also being called a likely Oscar contender, and mainstream film critics have lavished the film with praise.

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/1/afa/252006f.asp

"They don't point to the truth that homosexuality is a very difficult lifestyle," Chambers says. "It's one full of desperation and devastation and heartache."

Hmmm ... Could ex-Miss Thang be referring to the fact that it's the homophobic bible-thumpers who make being gay "difficult" and "full of desperation"?
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 07:36 PM
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1. Dude... just because YOU never had a date on Sat. night...
...ever thought it might be your deodorant? Or maybe your mouthwash? How about a wax to take that mat off yer back?

helpfully,
Bright
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 07:40 PM
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2. Well if it's a difficult lifestyle
why would anyone CHOOSE to be gay?
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carl_pwccaman Donating Member (259 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-28-06 02:58 AM
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20. Good point....
I think some choices are made because of difficult situations beyond our control or choice.

Not all of our sexuality is about choice, nor are we entirely without choice.

We do make choices about how to live, about quality of life.

Those who choose 'exodus' must feel that on the balance, the pros and cons, this is more satisfying to their conscience or emotional life or whatever. Fine for them.

But there are pros and cons to life, regardless of orientation. True enough. And the anti-gay agenda makes it worse for us. True enough.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 07:52 PM
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3. Can you believe the ignorance of this statement.....
"They don't point to the truth that homosexuality is a very difficult lifestyle," Chambers says. "It's one full of desperation and devastation and heartache."

The movie didn't point out that homosexuality is a difficult life often damaged by desperation, devastation and heartache? Duh. Does the reviewer have ANY idea of what the movie/short story involves? But then, these people are neanderthals.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:08 AM
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6. You expect the bigots to actually *SEE* the movie?!
Unheard of! They might leave the theater feeling sympathetic, and only Satan could make a Talibangelical feel sympathetic! And anyway, seeing "Brokeback Mountain" might... you know... reawaken those urges they try so hard... did I say hard?!... to supress.
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:33 AM
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9. I think we could say that Chambers is 'projecting'.
The poor dear. Pity.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 08:10 PM
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4. I'll get a pix of this guy to post for y'all--I'll just head to the baths
or maybe a public restroom.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:24 AM
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8. Here's Miss Chambers now:
A bottom's bottom. I'm just saying.

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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:34 AM
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10. No. Say it isn't so.
:spray:
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:38 AM
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11. Yep, it's him
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 09:34 AM
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18. My company's "naughty site" blocker blocks Exodus Int.!
Being a sysadmin, I went in to check the filter lists. Exodus International is flagged as being "racist, sexist and/or offensive to minorities" :toast: :patriot:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 09:14 AM
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16. Damn! All I see is a red X!
I'll try someone else's computer later!
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-25-06 08:28 PM
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5. If anything, BBM focuses solely on desperation and devastation.
Has this guy seen the movie? The fact that the only remotely positive gay characters end of dead is the thing that pisses me off about the movie.
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 12:22 AM
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7. I love how the politically correct rightwing freak phrase
is officially: "sheepherders."

Fuck you, Agape press, and the sheep you rode in on.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 06:50 AM
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15. Hmm, and they claim Jesus is the shepherd of them, so who they gonna
pick to try to make look bad to other homophobes? John Wayne or Jesus?

What does every fundie do when given the choice between something else and the way Jesus would handle it? They pick the something else.

rich man/camel vs Jesus? Bring on the money
tax cuts vs Jesus feed the poor? Welfare queens
anti gay/black/hispanic/woman legislation vs Jesus 'love thy neighbor'? Bashers-R-Us
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 01:46 AM
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12. "full of desperation and devastation and heartache" . . .
huh? . . . does this guy KNOW any gays? . . . yeah, most folks initially have difficulty dealing with their orientation . . . but most also get past it, embrace it, and live lives that are anything but desperate, devastating, and/or full of heartache . . . not the gays and lesbians I know, anyhow . . .
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TaleWgnDg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 04:52 AM
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13. Yes, indeed. And this very same mindset used to burn witches too.
Wouldn't you think that that mindset would have evolved since the 1600s and before? Ooops, there's that nasty word, "evolve."
.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 06:41 AM
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14. '' But while Exodus is offering hope based on scriptural truth
the ministry leader contends that movies like the homosexual "romance" Brokeback Mountain are fostering confusion and desperation.''

where's the hope when you are told that the core of your being is wrong?

there can be NO peace with these creatures -- and it isn't hope or love they're spreading.

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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 09:18 AM
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17. movies don't "send messages"
I wonder if the spirit voices in his head are louder than the alien thought rays most days.

Anyway - so what solution is he proposing? Banning them? Because homosexuality is the ONLY problem in America?

I'm going with the alien thought rays, myself.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-26-06 04:06 PM
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19. did anyone think that Ennis and Jack were having a walk in the park
in the movie?

hello!

they were like 5 states away from each other; they had to get married to fit into the social paradigm of the times; they should have been with each other

I guess seeing the person you love like once a year is just so much fun!

dumbasses

:mad:
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