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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:09 PM
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University Compares Expelling Gay Student To Stamping Out Smoking
http://www.365gay.com/Newscon06/01/012906school.htm

A small Christian liberal arts university that expelled a gay student for failing to adhere to "lifestyle" rules set down by the school is now comparing his dismissal to a hospital asking someone to leave because they are smoking.

Michael Guinn said John Brown University expelled him Jan. 13 for violating " campus lifestyle guidelines". (story)
Guinn said he was required to adhere to behavior codes not required of other students. He said the university learned last summer that he was gay after someone e-mailed the administration a link to Guinn's online journal.

According to Guinn, he was required to sign a pledge that he would not dress in women's clothing, not slap others on the buttocks if he was a member of a sports team, not hug or shake hands with other men for too long, not "broadcast his lifestyle", and not tell other students he was gay until he knew them well.

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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:11 PM
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1. Welcome to small christian universities.
Where I come from, expulsions from the local chrisitian college come from dancing over break.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:11 PM
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2. Let's see...
they don't want to "pollute" their campus-wonder how many minorities attend, or are they considered "pollution" too? This is the same mindset, imho, as racists have.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 02:14 PM
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7. This is John Brown university. There aren't any minorities! They
are a racist organization!
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:12 PM
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3. "a small Christian liberal arts university "...
Is there such a thing?
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:16 PM
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4. "...not hug or shake hands with other men for too long..." WTF???
OMG, the guy actually SIGNED that?

Okay, then...if we follow the rhetoric of the university and sprayed the university administration with, say...RAT POISON, then wouldn't that be akin to pest control?

Time to stock up on D-CON.
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Ally McLesbian Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:18 PM
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5. The thing about women's clothing
Proof that homophobia is really transphobia and sexism.
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 01:22 PM
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6. Gay Americans still not treated fairly. Recall "I have a dream speech"
From MLK's speech.

"When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men would be guaranteed the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."

King continues, Unfortunately, America "has defaulted on this promissory note,"
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The fact that this is STILL going on for Gay Americans shows that most Americans are cowards and refuse to stand up to the fascists who were born with McCarthyism and continue to plague or nation.

As America doesn't stand for something anymore, we certainly see that it will stand for anything. The late great America is no more.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 03:12 PM
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8. John Brown University. There you go.
They ran out of black students to expell for being black.

Made them all sign statements not to play basketball too well, to dance better than the white folks, or talk spiritedly in movie theatres to the characters on the screen for too long.

Oh my.

Poor kid - I sure hope he gets to go to a real University, and not some bedsheet and pointy hat wearing WASP university like John Brown.

Addenda to pledge. You must wear WHITE bedsheets and pointy hats. ABsolutely no tropical colors, colors named after foods, or paisley. And whatever you do, NO FUCKING GINGHAM!!!!
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dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-30-06 10:27 PM
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9. In all fairness they are a private school
and thus can set their own rules. I don't like them, I would have left rather than abide by them, but ultimately they should be permitted to have them as long as they don't get federal money.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 06:42 AM
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10. yes, other christian groups use the smoking analogy as well.
disgusting isn't it?
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-31-06 11:55 AM
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11. Like other have said, this is a private school
One whoch wishes to go back to the Inquisition and slavery.
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