WorldNet Daily and Article 8 chime-in on Robida slaying

[Ian David]

From the right-wing nutjobs at WorldNut Daily and Article Hate:

Christians blamed for 'gay'-bar rampage
Leading activist group points to Dobson, Robertson, others
Posted: February 10, 2006
1:00 a.m. Eastern

A leading homosexual activist group is blaming a deranged teenager's violent rampage through a "gay" bar in Massachusetts on "hatred and loathing" fueled by Christian groups and leaders such as James Dobson.

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Foreman also complained of "vicious" opposition to homosexual-rights activists and "hate-filled rantings" by the leaders of two Massachusetts groups, Brian Camenker of the Article 8 Alliance and Ed Pawlick of MassNews.

"The blood spilled this morning is on their hands," Foreman charged.

Article 8 Alliance responded: "It's now becoming clear that homosexual activist groups intend to use this incident as a springboard for a vicious and cowardly series of attacks on anyone who publicly criticizes the homosexual movement – similar to what happened after the Matthew Shepard incident."

{link to right-wing hate sites deliberately omitted}

[LiberalPartisan]

1. What ever works...:)

I'm not opposed to some good old fashioned political smear tactics if it will help to tamp down the influence of Dobson and his glassy eyed followers.

[chelsea0011]

2. One only has to ask is why Robida, an insane killing nutjob, picked

a gay bar to take out his hate and anger. It was the one building he went into to begin a death-ridden crime spree. There is probably nothing in Robida's life that would have any hate or crime committed towrds him by anyone who is gay, but his hate towrds that group of people would make him go on the crime spree. Why? Of course the groups like Article 8 must be helf accountable. These are the groups that think it is OK to hate gays. They feed the hate that people like Robida have pent up in themselves. Robida hated everyone. He killed an officer and woman, but it was a gay bar he searched out.


An aside. Camenker is a nutcase and I was glad to see the Daily Show make him out for the hate fool he is.

[BR_Parkway]

3. Well, I missed the part where they proved that claim was actually

wrong. Guess they just needed to blame the homo agenda for something this week.

[triakis36]

4. Standing up is not cowardly

Anyway, of course the LGBT community is going to react to a hate crime from such a violent individual. Will it be a springboard as a cautionary tale, as in "watch what you say someone might take you seriously..."? Yes. But I would hardly call it cowardly to stand up and demand answers and accountability. People have died, its serious business not just an "incident."

In any case, A8A are the same people that want Avis is stop advertising in so-called "hard core gay magazines". When in reality, its just a car rental add in the Advocate and Out with two guys in a hammock. Stabbing other people in the back (figuratively) and lying about the facts for shock value is cowardly.

[kevinbgoode]

5. Hmm..let's see...homophobes hiding behind the bible

and white supremacists....gee...and they actually wonder how easy it is to make the connection?

[xchrom]

6. how about t. mcveigh?

an inveterate listener of hate messages.

those hate messages had nothing to do with his attack?

remember how they castigated pres clinton for suggesting such a thing.

[Ian David]

7. Execellent post on this from MassResistanceWatch

If Only It Was Science Fiction!

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While they don't like being linked to anti-gay violence, in countless posts and articles they are continuously trying to link the whole gay community to anything and anyone bad on the planet. From a their "friend" Joe:

The journalist also implies that the Roman Catholic Church is scapegoating gays for the scandals. I believe research will prove that most of the abuse was done by priests with sexually mature victims and that much of the abuse was male-to-male. (The constant refrain we hear is, "Oh, that's different, those priests weren't gay -- they were pedophiles.") I believe most of those responsible for the abuse can be classified as gay. If this is the case the Church should be heralded for rooting out this problem.

Of course Joe has no data just "speculation" because of his personal views on gay people. Or this:

And now in California's Bay area, public restrooms must play host to transsexual-transgendered freak shows. (Read the story in WorldNetDaily.) Imagine your little girl in the ladies' room as she observes a man/woman using the facilities. Bad enough little boys have to worry about homosexual pedophiles in men's restrooms. But now, even the ladies' rooms are unsafe!

What sources does she has that pedophiles in restrooms are gay, did they self identify? But of course the stereotyping isn't only linked to gay men:

The Springfield Republican reports that two women have been charged with the rape and assault of another woman, in a "sexual encounter that a prosecutor said started out consensual and turned into a rape involving handcuffs and knives."

The details of this sordid encounter remind us that one of the dangers of the lesbian "lifestyle" is a higher incidence of domestic violence than in heterosexual relationships. It also brings to mind just how dangerous the kinky, pansexual world can become, and how quickly people can slide down that slippery slope into dangerous perversions, including the sort of sadism described in the article

Or to gay people:

Isn't encouraging the homosexual lifestyle among our young people priestly child abuse, in another form?

But I'm the one with the "rage and angry energy".

More:
http://massresistancewatch.blogspot.com/2006/02/if-only-it-was-science-fiction.html

[Ian David]

8. Another great post from MassResistanceWatch

Out, damned spot! out, I say!
How glorious, Ms. Massresistance is now ranting because of the hate crime in New Bedford.

Yes, it was the vicious act of one degenerate. But no, "opinion" has no role to play here! Use of that word implies that people who hold opinions critical of special rights for homosexuals are indeed dangerous, but they just don't happen to live in New Bedford!

That's right, they live in Acton and Newton and even Little ole Provincetown. She tries to wash the blood off her hands by once again playing the victim (a part she loves to play) and asks:

What does the political and moral argument over "gay marriage" have to do with some crazy guy's meltdown?

Why? Well, because people like her are constantly verbally attacking gays and lesbians. Calling us depraved, perverted and abnormal. Funny how they are always blaming us for the breakdown of the family or the Iraq War (well Brian Camenker did say he could link it to gays getting married if he had enough time) yet they try and distance themselves from an action that could possibly be linked directly to them. As Bay Windows reported just yesterday:

"This bill is viciously undemocratic. Our founding fathers would have taken up arms because of this," said Lexington parent David Parker, who made headlines last April for refusing to leave school grounds after he demanded that his son be opted out of any discussion in his kindergarten class on LGBT topics, including discussions of families with gay parents.

Well David, have no fear. You don't need the founding fathers because this boy is carrying out your wishes. He has taken up arms against the gay community.

I don't know how plain it has to be. He went into a gay bar, asked if it was a gay bar and started swinging an ax and shooting a gun. What more do you need? Yeah he was an anti-Semite and anti- African American but did he go into synagogue and start shooting? No, he went into a GAY bar. This young man was not born prejudice, where did he learn it? Where did he learn to hate Jews and African Americans? Where did he learn that gay people were sub-human and should be shot to death? Who is responsible for his behavior? Is it any wonder that attacks on gays and lesbians has risen since 2003? What group is verbally bashed more in the newspapers, online and even in the State of the Union address? If you guessed Judaism or people of color you're wrong.

More:
http://massresistancewatch.blogspot.com/2006/02/out-damned-spot-out-i-say.html