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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:29 AM
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Handcuffs and Leg Shackles? Are you kidding me?!?!
Edited on Tue May-02-06 07:18 AM by cboy4
This, for appearing in a gay porn?!?
If someone had been arrested for killing 5 people on base, they wouldn't be any more shackled than this.


I'm not defending this person's actions.

I just wonder how big a deal all this would have been had he been caught appearing in straight porn??

FORT BRAGG, N.C. — A second Army paratrooper pleaded guilty Monday to charges stemming from an investigation of soldiers who appeared on a military-themed pornographic Web site.

Pvt. Kagen B. Mullen, 21, one of seven members of the 82nd Airborne Division charged with appearing on the site, pleaded to charges of conduct detrimental to the Army and use of marijuana.

He was sentenced to 90 days in prison, a bad conduct discharge and loss of two-thirds of his pay.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,193900,00.html

(you just know fox news got a ****-on printing another story about those horrible fags) :eyes:
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bigscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:33 AM
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1. In some gay porn
Hand cuffs and leg shackles are required!! This is wrong on so many levels I don't know where to begin. It is a shame active duty personnel need to supplement their income this way
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:50 AM
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6. It is sad to see soldiers in uniform shacked and handcuffed--I mean is
is a flight risk?
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:36 AM
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2. got to be careful, he might try to cram his gay agenda down your throat
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:38 AM
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3. here's what pisses me off -- WHO CARES!
these guys -- gay or straight -- put their lives on the line to do their duty for their country -- who cares if they do porn?

to put this guy in shackles is so offensive -- let's see ken lay in shackles.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 02:54 PM
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12. Exactly. Ken Lay raping Enron employees of every cent they worked for
is far more obscene and repulsive than any hard core porn these dudes participated in off base and presumably on their own time.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:38 AM
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4. I hope when George Bush is sentenced, it's equally severe for the crimes
he's committed.

He was sentenced to 90 days in prison, a bad conduct discharge and loss of two-thirds of his pay.


In Bush's case, perhaps no security detail, no free postage, complete loss of pay, etc., would be appropriate. After raping the citizens of this country, we shouldn't have to pay a dime for Bush, except for what it costs to keep him in prison.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:49 AM
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5. Anything involving gays and pornography are bad, bad bad
they are evil and must be contained before they infect the entire world.
:sarcasm:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 11:24 AM
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11. Unless your name ends with Gannon or Guckert or something like that
In which case it's tasteful and family values oriented gay porn I guess...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 06:52 AM
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7. None of the 82nd Airborne involved in torturing prisoners are in jail n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:10 AM
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8. I would defend this man's actions. He's wearing a uniform but
I also don't think his "crimes" warrant shackles.
I can only hope this was intentional and he just wanted out of the military.
He is young enough to weather this, and he's alive!
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 07:49 AM
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9. Yes, please Government, I need protection from Gay Military...
So much more than military people who torture, break laws, kill innocents...

Those gays are so much more dangerous for those dnagerous ideas of not being like everyone else!

Shouldn't be neeeded but ;sarcasm;
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 10:51 AM
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10. We shall overcome!
Yea right. :eyes:
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-02-06 03:28 PM
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13. *cough* *Jeff Gannon* *cough*
Edited on Tue May-02-06 03:29 PM by DarkTirade
I'm sorry, I think I had something in my throat.
Probably bile.
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FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 07:58 AM
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14. I'd like to support the troops
Does anybody know what site he's on? :evilgrin:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-04-06 10:02 PM
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23. I plain don't believe it
I'll have to see for myself
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 09:41 AM
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15. It seems overkill, but there may be a military rule that anyone convicted
of anything with a prison sentence be transported this way.

It's still so stupid - the guy was willing to give his life for this country and was already underpaid and treated like crap (I'm a veteran, I remember those days)

Did you see this:<i>
"He told a judge he received $7,500 for appearing in the pornographic scenes but didn't perform homosexual acts, though the pornography on the Web site was mostly aimed at gays."<i/>

That's almost a year's pay for some of these guys, I had no idea they were making that much money - and if he really didn't do anything involving anyone else - hell, I do that most mornings for free, I mean, well, I'm just saying...
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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 09:48 AM
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16. Hmmm...he looks mighty fine in that uniform and beret....
Edited on Wed May-03-06 09:48 AM by KzooDem
Anyone have a link to where we can see him sans uniform?

(I know...I'm soooo bad.)
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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 10:09 AM
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17. I don't get it...
How do the charges break down?

I don't really understand all of this. If he did not commit homosexual acts, what did he do wrong in their eyes? Why is he getting jail time? Just because of the marijuana? Was he convicted in a normal court of law, or some military court?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 11:48 AM
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18. I'm guessing he got paid to do a "solo" scene.
The humanity. :eyes:
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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 12:52 PM
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19. Yeah, I get that much...
But why the jail time? If doing any sort of porn is illegal in the military, so be it. But I'm not understanding why he would have to do jail time.

From reading the article, they make it sound like he is being punished because he appeared on a gay porn site, emphasis on the gay part. However, they said he didn't commit any homosexual acts, soooo? I'm just not able to add it all up, I guess.

From all the reports leading up to this, they made it sound like these guys were engaged in homosexual acts, which was why it was such a "bad thing" for the military. Yet this guy didn't engage in any homosexual act, he just appeared on a porn website.

If he were doing a spread for a straight porn website, would they not have punished him? I just don't get it.
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 01:36 PM
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21. Well keep in mind, he didn't "just" appear on a porn website.....
And while I'm not in the least bit defending the government.....he was videotaped for a porno and his scene was most certainly on a tape that included guys doing more than just playing with themselves.

This particular web-site's (Active Duty) porn tapes are very hard core (so to speak).

But I absolutely agree with your last line.....if this had been a straight porno, would he be in this much trouble? I doubt it.



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W_HAMILTON Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 01:53 PM
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22. Sorry, still not getting it...
Like I said, I had assumed I understood all of the facts of the case, before this article at least. Of course I didn't agree with it, but if they had broken military rules, then it's something they would have to deal with.

However this article says they this guy in particular did not engage in any homosexual activities. So why is he getting in trouble? Simply because he was doing porn? And why is he having to serve jail time?

If are in the military and get into trouble doing any sort of porn, ok, fine.

If he was convicted in some sort of military court (whose rules I wouldn't understand anyway), ok, fine.

But if he was convicted in a normal court, why would he serve time (unless it's all for marijuana possession)? And if he didn't commit any homosexual acts, why was he punished so severely by the military, unless it has rules against participating in any sort of porn?

Can any military people weigh in? Do they have rules against appearing in any sort of porn, or are they just extending this out so far that they think they can get away with this dismissal via the "don't ask, don't tell" policy?
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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-03-06 01:07 PM
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20. Welcome to straight America! Boycott their country, boycott America.
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