Virginia Considers Issuing Anti-Gay License Plates

[davidinalameda]

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/01/010405vaLicense.htm

Virginia lawmakers will consider legislation to amend the state constitution to ban same-sex marriage in the new session of the legislature.

The state is one of what is expected to be up to a dozen states to take up the issue following voter approval in 11states last November of similar amendments.

But, the legislature will also look at a measure that would put the marriage issue on license plates. The bill calls for traditional marriage to be displayed on car licenses. If passed the plates would have interlocking gold wedding bands superimposed over a red heart over the legend "Traditional Marriage."



okay, now I'm getting scared

[commander bunnypants]

1. god I hate my state sometimes

CB

[SheepyMcSheepster]

2. wow, just wow, that is scary

[jdj]

64. I guess Virginia isn't for lovers anymore.

when I lived there that was the big marketing campaign (80's)

[lukasahero]

118. Friend's bumper sticker

reads: "Virginia is for lovers - restrictions may apply." Thought that was pretty good.

[fertilizeonarbusto]

3. I have a traditional

"Fuck You" for said lawmakers.

[sui generis]

4. REALLY

so even if you're queer you have to sport one of these?

I'm not scared - here's real traditional marriage for those idiots, and it just goes to show that medieval is the wrong word to use for Virginia, since apparently same-sex marriage was indeed condoned by the church in the middle ages.

www.depts.drew.edu/jhc/samesex.html

It's just the modern church that has a stick up their ass about it.

[thecrow]

9. I'm from VA

and I have to say this:
No "special" license plate is mandatory.

People can choose to just get a plate with numbers on it.
Here in VA we have about umpteen zillion license plates to choose from, not counting the "vanity" plates which you see on every other car.
This is a poor choice for a plate design. VERY poor.

I imagine the Christian Right (which must have a large contingency here) is responsible for this. These people will be wearing their politics on their license plate, and IDENTIFY THEMSELVES to the rest of us.
If this passes, I can imagine there might be acts of civil disobedience in some areas that sport these licenses, just as there might be if people put other volatile topics on their license plates.

[arcane1]

13. yes, and they pay extra for them

so the state will get additional revenue from bigotry and intolerance and hate...

I am renouncing the state of my birth, right now

[Ekirh]

54. I still live in the state...

My Religious Right family members... I can see a few of them buying these. "sighs"

[renaissanceguy]

15. I'd key their cars

if I saw one of them in a parking lot. (not condoning that other people do such behavior, of course }( )

http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744526 http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744378 http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.14744315

[purduejake]

70. I could just accidentally slam my door into the side of their car.

It's difficult to explain that you accidentally keyed a car. I'm not condoning any of this, by the way. I also sometimes accidentally cut these people off and give them a finger. You can't get in trouble if it "causes" them to assault you anymore. It's amazing how much bravery a big can of mace gives you. :)

edit: PS.. Doing of this is really wrong and I will probably regret it someday. I have liberal bumper stickers on my car and would not want it to be a target. Until that day comes, this accidental behavior gives me sanity.

[lib_1138]

100. That's not very nice...

We are supposed to be above all that -- Brown Shirt behavior is both counter-productive and just WRONG.

[Mr_Spock]

41. Interesting, so Virginia is promoting violence?

Why else would they condone "target" license plates unless they were hoping to create a hostile environment inevitably leading to violence. Oh, well, I hereby document my opinion.

[Ms. Toad]

58. The article doesn't say it is a special/vanity license plate

Do you have a additional information which indicates it is not being proposed for the general plates? (Most states have a slogan on their general plates - Like "You've Got a Friend in Pennsylvania" which was on all PA plates at one time)

[WoodrowFan]

94. it'll be a special plate

it'll be a special plate.

[Chipper Chat]

72. I have the perfect "in your face" solution to this:

If you're a same-sex couple, go ahead and buy the new "traditional marriage" plate. Paint a large pink triangle over the red heart. Then add the word "gay" between tradional and marriage. Then see how long it takes for the design to be deep-sixed by Mr. Linguinifelther.

[Ian David]

99. Pink triangles on the fundie plate-- illegal

They could arrest you for "deliberately obscuring a license plate."

[Ms. Toad]

113. It might be difficult...

Unless Virginia is different than Ohio - where FOP stickers/badges routinely cover 15-20% of the many license plates. As long as the relevant plate numbers are visible there might be a problem with selective enforcement - particularly if the law is enforced against political expression while not enforced against the less political expression of announcing that you made contribution to the local police force.

[TaleWgnDg]

112. No, no one can be FORCED by the state to have . . .

No, no one can be required by the state to disseminate state ideology via a motor vehicle registration plate upon their own motor vehicle. The U.S. Supreme Court held in Wooley v. Maynard, 430 U.S. 705 (1977) that the State of New Hampshire "may (not) constitutionally require an individual to participate in the dissemination of an ideological message by displaying it on his private property in a manner and for the express purpose that it be observed and read by the public." http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=430&invol=705

Thus, when I lived in New Hampshire, I "whited-out" the "live free or die" state motto on my automobile registration plate. BTW, this was the non-vanity plate for New Hampshire at that time and at the time of the Wooley court opinion.


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[Maat]

115. Thanks, TaleWgnDg.

I loved that case in law school.

[tinrobot]

5. Park in the back...

Next thing you know, people with these special license plates will be able to use carpool lanes and park in the handicapped spot.

This is getting scary.

[bobbobbins]

6. if they do that, im moving to maryland

[Danocrat]

7. I don't condone this

but what a great way to get your car keyed

[bobbobbins]

8. well lets look at the positive side of this...

if the bigots advertise, we'll know who to avoid

[neweurope]

10. WTF? Next you'll have to pay a 5.000 dollar fine for kissing somebody

in a cab?

Really scary.


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Remember Fallujah!

Bush to The Hague

[Chef]

11. Election

This pattern is getting old. This year, VA has an election. Put something like an anti-gay, pro-family thing on the ballot and turn out those who want tho express their opion on homosexuality and the'll vote in a Republican governor. Sly devils. Watch for more states in 2006 to do the same.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

56. Close! The governor's race will be decided on...

capital punishment, with a sprinkling of homophobia for the Falwell crowd, I'm sure.

Death Penalty A Key Strategy For Kilgore
Rival Kaine's Opposition Stressed in Bid for Governor

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27885-2004Dec26.html

[arcane1]

12. this shit is reaching the level of an epidemic

and I for one now have yet another reason the be glad to have left that gods-forsaken hell-hole


NOTHING defiles marriage more than the 'traditional' marriage I had in VA :eyes:

[Ian David]

14. It gets worse! (nominate for top page)

Note: Both articles mis-spell the politician's name.
It should be Scott Lingamfelter (Or L. Scott Lingamfelter)


See also:
Bills range from budget to car tags for 'traditional marriage'
Posted: Thursday, Dec 30, 2004 - 08:54:41 pm EST
<snip>
And then there's the fun stuff.

One bill prefiled the past couple of weeks would shield purveyors of greasy, high-carb food from lawsuits filed by consumers who contend that the servings made them obese, ill or both; another would establish special license plates depicting interlocked gold wedding bands superimposed over a red heart over the legend "Traditional Marriage."
<snip>
Del. Scott Limgamfelter, R-Prince William, is offering a bill that would remove a $950 million limit to the car tax phaseout - a limit that was a critical piece of the $1.4 billion tax compromise passed in April. Lingamfelter's bill would allow localities to complete former Gov. Jim Gilmore's 1998 elimination of the personal property tax on personal vehicles and obligate the state to reimburse the cities and counties for their lost tax collections.
<snip>
Lingamfelter is also patron of a bill that would add automobile license plates commending "traditional" wedlock between a man and woman at the same time lawmakers consider a state constitutional amendment that would ban legislation recognizing gay marriage.

Eleven states gave voter approval to similar constitutional amendments in November's general election. To amend Virginia's Constitution, the measure would have to be enacted in two successive legislative sessions and put to a statewide vote by November 2006.



Democratic Del. Mitchell Van Yahres, meanwhile, has offered a bill to undo legislation approved in 2004 that effectively voids contracts between same-sex couples that are intended to establish some privileges and obligations of marriage.

<snip>
- A bill by Del. Floyd H. Miles Sr., D-Charles City, to require DNA analyses of people arrested for soliciting for prostitution or a drug offense;

- Legislation by Del. John Cosgrove, R-Chesapeake, that makes women responsible for reporting to law-enforcement officials within 12 hours the delivery of a dead fetus where there was no medical assistance;
<snip>
http://bdtonline.com/articles/2004/12/31/west_virginia_news/virginia_news/01billsva.txt
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L. Scott Lingamfelter
Delegate, 31st District
Virginia House of Delegates
Faith. Family. Freedom. Virginia Values.
Scott Lingamfelter, Delegate 31st District


Scott Lingamfelter District Office
5420 Lomax Way
Woodbridge, VA 22193
Telephone: [phone]
[phone]
[phone] (Fauquier Residents)
Fax: [phone]
E-mail: [e-mail]

Lingamfelter, L S
1385 Spences Point Rd
Hague, VA 22469
804-472-9650

Session Office
General Assembly Building
P.O. Box 406
Richmond, Virginia 23218
[phone]
Constituent Viewpoint Hotline: [phone]


Online contact form:
http://www.va31st.com/contact/form.asp

Welcome to Delegate Scott Lingamfelter's official web site
http://www.vote4scott.com/

Historical Bio for L. Scott Lingamfelter
"I STAND FOR FAITH, FAMILY, AND FREEDOM - VIRGINIA VALUES"
R - 31st District. District includes Counties of Fauquier ...
http://dela.state.va.us/dela/MemBios.nsf/0/56eea3213ddffecf85256580006b7231?OpenDocument

A strong faith-based value system is critical to the future of our country. Our Founders knew this and we must return to such a posture if we are to remain a great State and Nation.

Family is the best social program ever created. Government has a profound interest in encouraging sound families if we are to produce responsible citizens.
Freedom is our most precious right - government's primary purpose is to protect our freedoms. These freedoms include the right to life, freedom from oppressive taxation, and the right to keep and bear arms. Rights all included in the US Constitution by our Founding Fathers.
http://www.va31st.com/issues/index.htm

[beam me up scottie]

79. "Freedom is our most precious right"

"- A bill by Del. Floyd H. Miles Sr., D-Charles City, to require DNA analyses of people arrested for soliciting for prostitution or a drug offense;"

"- Legislation by Del. John Cosgrove, R-Chesapeake, that makes women responsible for reporting to law-enforcement officials within 12 hours the delivery of a dead fetus where there was no medical assistance;"
<snip>

Apparently freedom is only a "precious right" for some citizens.

[FreepFryer]

27. I'm sorry but

the last line of that post made me LOL. Glad you made it out and take care. :)

[arcane1]

29. hehe

totally true, too


:evilgrin:

[sniffa]

16. ooh i can't wait to get my

KKK commerative pLates too.

[outrage]

39. KKK commerative pLates too.

Yeah...why the F not? Let's put all our prejudices on a license plate, F-it. These people are wackadoos. I knew this would happen once the doofus-in-chief got another term. I knew it!

[WoodrowFan]

93. they have them

or close to it, the Sons of Confederate Veterans plates.





of course Sniffa, if YOU got a personalized PL8 it would have to be all lower case except for the UPPERCASE "L" :P

[Technowitch]

17. "Virginia Re-Confirms Ignorant Bigoted Yahoo Status"

...as well as the fact I will never, EVER go there for any reason whatsoever.

[Politicub]

20. I'm with you

I will never go to that state unless I absolutely, positively have to. I frequently book conferences and events at hotels and convention centers, and I will NEVER book a meeting in VA or recommend to any of my clients that they hold an event there. FUCKING NEVER.

Stuff like the marriage license plate is just designed to show superiority, and TERRORIZE. Yes, terrorize. I'm going to start calling these bigots what they really are - terrorists who are targeting gay and lesbian families.

Reap the whirlwind, Virginia.

[mitchtv]

18. Virginia is for Haters

besides Jay Crew any ither companies from Virginia to Boycott?
what a disgusting excuse for an american state. pray for Hurricanes

[Virginian]

65. TIME OUT!!!

There are parts of this state that are very blue.
Don't throw the baby out with the bath water, this state was almost a swing state.
Yes, we have some wackos here. Doesn't your state? Reagan opened the doors of the mental hospitals and the inmates are now running the state legislature.

Don't paint us all with the same brush. We don't deserve it.

And to Arcane1 -- My first marriage was one of those, too. The republican only married me to have a self supporting free maid and cook. I Sure am glad I'm in a good marriage now.

[mitchtv]

102. Dems run the state legislature

and senate

[Virginian]

103. Where did you get that piece of fiction? Here are the numbers.

State Senate
Democrats 16
Republicans 24
Other 0

State House
Democrats 37
Republicans 61
Other 2

Senior US Senator
John Warner (R)
Year(s) Elected: 1978, 1984, 1990, 1996, 2002
In office since 1979
Term ends 2009
Last Election
Democrat 0%
Republican 82%
Other 17%

Junior US Senator
George Allen (R)
Year(s) Elected: 2001
In office since 2001
Term ends 2007
Last Election
Democrat 47%
Republican 52%
Other 0%

US Representatives
Democrats 3
Republicans 8
Other 0

[mitchtv]

111. when you said Regan let the inmates out

I Knew you meant Calif, HAha

[Joe the Revelator]

78. "Pray for hurricanes"

With all due respect, kiss my ass.

I live in the area that WOULD get hit by hurricanes if they were to come up the coast, and myself and the cities around us are blue. We voted Kerry and we ensured Mark Warner's victory. The part of the state you have problems with is west of Richmond and south of Arlington.

[Bouncy Ball]

86. Don't forget the Norfolk/VA Beach/Hampton Roads area

practically Freeper Central.

[Virginian]

105. They elected Bobby Scott, one of three VA Dem Reps

Bobby Scott's district is there. He is one of only three Democratic Congressmen from Virginia.

[jackster]

19. it gets scarier in America every day...

check out this letter in today's Boston Globe from some nutjob in Brookline (and I thought it was a progressive community).....

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2005/01/04/hardly_a_beacon_to_the_future/

is she advocating putting gays and lesbians to death??????????

use to never see this kind of s**t in the Globe!

[davidinalameda]

24. why the high suicide rate among GLBTs

because of uncaring bigots like yourself Madam and the hateful shit you spew!

[Bouncy Ball]

87. Thank you.

EXACTLY. The suicide rate is so much higher because society makes it so damn fucking hard for them. That lady needs to buy a friggin clue.

[Chipper Chat]

116. I had 2 boys kill themselves

when I was teaching school. Both seniors, they died in "mysterious" car wrecks. I suspected they were closet gays and just figured they couldn't stand it any more. Of course Phred Fellpps would have applauded this! And this crazy woman too.

[hraka]

34. um, excuse me?

"neurotic behavior with negative physical and mental consequences"
The only physical consequences I ever had were from relationships with men: RAPE!

"It will encourage youngsters in that direction at a time when they are too young to know better."
Get a clue you bigotted hatemonger! People are born gay! The only ones who "turn gay" are those women who are abused by men and can't stand then thought of being with one.

"why is the number of suicides among homosexuals so high?"
Because monsters like you make us feel like we don't deserve the same right to life as the rest of the world.

"Focus on the facts, not your sympathetic feelings. Life is real."
So what, we shouldn't have sympathy for people who don't share your narrow minded, hateful, backward, UNCHRISTIAN! way of thinking? My life is very real, honey, and you aren't a part of it!

Who is this cow?!?!

[bardgal]

47. uhm.... FACTS? STDs are actually higher in the straight world, as

well as DIVORCE RATES, and ABUSE.

hello? Who the hell needs to WAKE THE F^#K UP???

I wish I had as long, stable, and loving relationships as all my gay friends have.

Bigoted harpy.

[DU9598]

59. Google her

I googled Virginia Hamel. She sounds like a royal witch, but drop the "w" and add a "b". Maybe people should write her letters and let her know what a hateful, evil, disgusting witch she is. And, she wonders why gay kids kill them selves. With people like her around, no wonder suicide for kids is so high.

[dave420]

76. No, she's not saying that

She is screwed up with her logic, though. Seriously screwed up. Doesn't she realise that in Ancient Greece, the civilisation that gave the world democracy, homosexuality was not just accepted, but the norm? Or were Aristotle and Plato evil sinners, and democracy fruits of evil? Hardly.

She also speculates about the link between homosexuality and suicide. Suggesting one directly causes the other is immature, naive logic. She doesn't realise that people like her calling gay people evil are responsible for a HUGE chunk of those tragic deaths.

She also completely fails to mention the hoardes of straight people spreading HIV around. At least the gay community has MUCH better safe-sex education than the "I don't want to be sued" school system.

People like her shouldn't be faulted for their beliefs. She lives in a closed world, and needs education not scorn. Still, it pisses me off none-the-less ;)

[beam me up scottie]

80. It will encourage youngsters in that direction at a time when they are too

young to know better."

She must be talking about organized religion. All children are born
Atheists. They have to be taught to hate.

[Ian David]

117. Here is a published response to Virginia Hamel

Boston Globe

Letter preaches hate, bigotry
January 5, 2005

I DOUBT that the Globe would publish an ignorant diatribe against most minority groups. Why, then, is it OK to do so when the target of such a diatribe is homosexuals ("Hardly a `beacon to the future' " letters, Jan. 4)? Change a word here and there in Virginia Hamel's letter and you have the root of much misery in the world -- intolerance, hatred, and bigotry.

Consider a couple of word changes in her letter: "For thousands of years homosexuals (read Jews) have been condemned and punished in many societies as repugnant and perverted. Some countries have put Jews to death." How about: "To make homosexual (read interracial) marriage legal is not a right but misguided social approval to immoral and dangerous behavior. Interracial marriage will cause much social destruction and pain and should be pubicly condemned."

More:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2005/01/05/letter_preaches_hate_bigotry/


Here is some info on Virginia Hamel

University of Virginian Class of '48
Virginia Hamel of Brookline, Mass., is enjoying her retirement from Brigham and Women’s Hospital. She is interested in genealogy and trying to beat the Stock Market.
http://www.uvm.edu/~uvmpr/vq/VQFALL01/class20~40.html


Here is some follow-up on Virginia Hamel:

The Bunko Squad
January 04, 2005 »
The Worst Thing I've Ever Read

Sometimes, when I'm feeling like checking out a little knee-jerk stupidity, I'll check out the letters page of the NY Post. It's such a right-wing echo chamber that I swear if one day the headline read "Bush to dissolve Fed; US to go Socialist" the letters page the next day would praise his bold leadership and implore the citizenry to get in line and support the President.

But I didn't even make it to the Post today. Here in our own Boston Globe is this doozy, from one Virginia Hamel of Brookline:
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/letters/articles/2005/01/04/hardly_a_beacon_to_the_future/

Continue reading "The Worst Thing I've Ever Read"
http://www.bunkosquad.com/archives/2005/01/the_worst_thing_1.php#more

http://www.bunkosquad.com/archives/2005/01/the_worst_thing_1.php

[juslikagrzly]

21. Oklahoma has vanity plates

that are "pro-life", although I did see that they may be phasing them out due to poor numbers sold :).

This is getting way weird and way scary folks!

[donheld]

22. Why not a license plate "Love to Hate"

it's only fitting. Then they could show their hate for everybody.

[LiberalinNC]

23. Isn't there more important issues to worry about?

Like the ecomony, the war in Iraq, people losing their jobs, folks who can't pay their bills...the list goes on and on! Who gives a shit if two guys or two gals want to marry? Let them be miserable like the rest of us ;)

Being so close to Virginia, if I see one of those plates, I think I'll flip those idiots the bird while driving by!

[Politicub]

25. To these people, no

Terrorizing gays, lesbians and our families is the most important issue to many folks in the US today. Sad, isn't it?

[LiberalinNC]

32. YES it is!

What really gets me is the fact the most "gay" couples stay together longer than most republican straight couples, they're the ones running around on their wifes w/ their mistresses. Sickening!

[MaraJade]

26. I read the article and what worries me most is that

the Virginia law not only blocks gay marriage and civil unions, but
prevents gay couples from formulating "any contract or other arrangement."

Suppose one partner makes an "other arrangement" with their significant other in the form of a Power of Attorney or a Will?
Does this law, in effect, discriminate by allowing any person other
than a gay person the right to choose their heir? Or will gay couples be unable to purchase homes and cars together (contracts ARE involved. . .)

If it does, it can probably be negated by a federal court somewhere
as being in violation of the Constitution.

As for the license plate, I think only a FOOL would sport it; it is
certain to become a magnet for keys, eggs and who knows what else.

Want your car wrecked? Get one of those plates!

[FreepFryer]

28. Absolutely correct.

There's no line between 'defending traditional marriage' and 'making homosexuality illegal/legally painful' for a whole lot of these scum.

The good news is:
As much as they might abuse young girls in their trailer park to protest it, 10% of them (at least) are gay themselves, so that's a great start right there for a resistance movement. And it's underway, believe me.

The other good news is:
their agenda is clear, and they've revealed the depths of their own depravity in so doing.

And although we're on the ropes for sure, it is they who will ultimately lose the battle for the national consciousness.

Believe in what is right. Believe in your own ability to decide truth from manipulation. Believe you will win.

[outrage]

40. RE: "I read the article and what worries me most is that"

You know, try as they might, they cannot legislate homosexuality out of existence. The more they push, the more gays will push back and rightfully so. I think it's past time to get rabidly angry and vocal about B.S. like this.

[tmooses]

30. Which "traditional marriage" are they supporting?..

The ones where one out of every two end up in divorce, or the ones where spousal abuse is commonplace.

[blue neen]

31. Virginia requires license plates on the front and back of vehicles.

If someone had an anti-gay license plate, everyone else would see a bigot coming AND going!

This whole idea dreamed up by Lingamfelter is a very sad statement on our society. :(

[Stew225]

33. The headline is misleading and inaccurate!

I don't agree with Virginia's posture on this but we are as guilty as the spin-sucking media when we distort a headline like this one.

The proposed license is not "anti gay" it's anti-same sex marriage.

[geekgrrl]

36. a good point!

"traditional marriage" isn't necessarily anti-gay.

Traditional marriage is anti-women's indepence from men. "traditional marriage" isn't just anti-gay marriage it is a call for a certain kind of family arrangement- where the man rules the family and the women takes care of the home and children and is dependent as much as the children. It is anti-women working outside the home. It is anti-single parents and anti-other relatives and people sharing households.

We do need to spin this differently. As someone who has been in a lesbian partnership for 8 years- I hear the term "traditional marriage" as not only an assault on gay partnerships gaining equality, but also an assault on women's rights, and the many different families and partnerships that are out there.

If we keep this in mind we can include more people in a movement for marriage equality. Recognition of gay partnerships is recognition of gender equality- and that works for everyone- gay and straight!

[Politicub]

44. Thanks for putting this in perspective

It's a move for a certain kind of family arrangement -- and this type of right-wing utopian arrangement isn't desired by most people. A highly vocal minority wants it, but not most people.

Maybe next they'll vote to overturn all divorces performed in the state in order to preserve the sanctity of bibical marriage. People would be retroactively be hitched to whom they divorced. Jesus doesn't recognize divorce by the state, heathens!

[Streetdoc270]

37. whats the difference....

99.99% of anti same-sex marriages are anti-gay. These are the people that want others who are 'different' from them to be relegated to second class citizenship. Why do we still allow this BS anyway? Letting the State tell people who they can and can't marry is a blatent violation of the Seperation of Church and State clause. Also realize this, marrage licenses were issued to prevent mysogeny (inter-racial marrage) now in this day and age can you imagine any male-female couple of any racial mixture being denied their right to marry? There would be outrage in the very halls of government that seek to repress the rights of Americans everywhere.

[hraka]

43. You're kidding, right?

Denying a right to a group of people that nearly 90% of the country enjoys is anti, period. Being anti-same sex marriage is anti-gay because it denies gays and lesbians a fundamental right that everyone else in the US has. Misleading is sugar coating their bigotted ideals by saying they're religious beliefs. Why then do we get so high and mighty when a country degrades women based on their religious beliefs?

It's gotta go both ways. Either everyone has the right or no one does.

[blue neen]

62. Spot on.

IMHO it doesn't matter if it's anti-gay or anti-woman; it's anti-HUMANITY. Oppression by any other name is still oppression.

Lingamfelter is feeding his ego by making himself feel superior in introducing this legislative bullshit. Apparently he wants to actually ADVERTISE his bigoty on license plates.

He's a poor excuse for a man.


edited for typo.

[ronnykmarshall]

35. Why not just put "Kill all faggots"

on the mother fuckers!

:nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :grr:

[Politicub]

45. Or what about a pink triangle tatoo for queers?

That way it will be easier for them to focus their right wing hate and bigotry.

[Fire]

38. When I see shit like this I want to hit somebody

at least I'll know which assholes to run off the road in virginia.

[Straight Shooter]

42. VIRGINIA IS FOR HATERS

I used to live in Southwest Virginia. I remember when their slogan was "Virginia Is For Lovers."

Not anymore. Jesus on their lips, hatred in their heart.

[tonekat]

46. I wish Northern VA would secede..

...from the rest of this dumb as a post "commonwealth", and take our tax dollars with us. Whenever we drive into Prince William county, where this stupid legislator is from, (and, believe me, that's as little as possible), I always announce "yee haw, here we are, in Spittle County!" (Yes, it's a Simpson's reference).

[kimchi]

60. Hear, hear!

I lived in the Shenandoah Valley most of my life and felt like an alien. I live in Arlington now in a sea of other liberals. I will always love the mountains; but I love equality and tolerance more.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

61. Maybe Maryland will take us...

along with DC. The flag could even stay the same! I'm seeing more and more "W04" and "Freedom Ain't Free"-type bumper stickers in this area - have you noticed? I guess they're emboldened.

[Virginian]

108. Then we could possibly get more river crossings.

There were supposed to be three beltways around DC. Sort of like a target. It would be nice if some of the thru traffic didn't have to mingle with the rush hour traffic. The Potomac belongs to MD up to the VA (Low tide) shoreline.

The primary bridge for north/south traffic is the Woodrow Wilson bridge. It is under renovation to make it 12 lanes wide, six lanes in each direction. I think that makes it a huge target. When someone threatened to jump off of it a few years ago, it was closed to vehicles while they tried to talk the "jumper" down. Traffic was so tied up, some commuters didn't get home until after midnight. By making it larger, it is only becoming the Achilles Heel of Washington commuting.

The bridges of the beltway are the outer most in the region. The nearest bridges outside the beltway are about 50 or so miles up or down the river.

If NOVA was part of MD, there wouldn't be a disagreement between states on where or if additional bridges should exist.

[The Backlash Cometh]

48. Oh, man! Imagine the possibilities. Anti-redneck plates, Anti-Republican

plates! They open this door and it will turn into a tsunami of hatred based on First Amendment rights!

[Learning2Fly]

50. Now I understand

why a recent job applicant from VA was willing to pay their own expenses for the interview and move clear across the country. How ignorant and mean-spirited can it get? I'd want to be far, far from VA, too!

[HockeyMom]

51. Family Values

I was raised by straight parents. The GOOD CHRISTIAN IDEAL. At 10 years old my father pushed my mother against the wall and started strangling her (not the FIRST time). I picked up a kitchen knife, at 10 years old, remember, and stuck it in his back and told him get away from my Mom or I will kill you. STRAIGHT FAMILY VALUES? I used to cry myself to sleep at night wishing I could run away and live with my gay aunt, her partner and my cousin. They had such a wonderful LOVING home life in comparison to mine. These people are ABSOLUTE IDIOTS. It is the PEOPLE INVOLVED, NOT THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION.

DAMN, I HATE these "Christian" BIGOTS. Children need LOVE and stability, not JUST STRAIGHT parents.

[beam me up scottie]

82. You are an incredible person, HockeyMom. It would have been

so much easier for you to have grown up like your father, but instead
you chose the high road. My hat's off to you.
Peace.

[The Backlash Cometh]

95. A liberal I met (in Broward county) calls those Republicans,

"Ostrich Republicans" because they bury their head in the sand. They refuse to believe that there are homo-sexuals in their own families. And a girl who I thought was Republican, but is married to a liberal man agreed with me that we should be supportive of helping young teenagers to determine their sexual orientation early in life. It's better for a man or woman to learn early that he/she is more attracted to his/her own sex, and allow him/her to marry the gender of there choice, than to raise them to believe there is something wrong with them unless they marry hetero-sexually. The reason is, that a family will deal with some massive issues down the road once the children are brought into that family, and the couple realize the only option is to divorce.

[DRoseDARs]

49. I'm sure the millions of people who voted against anti-gay legislation...

...appreciate their tax dollars being spent on this.

[Mojambo]

52. Great! Where can I get my, "Christians Molest Little Boys"

License plates?

Since Virginia doesn't seem to have a problem with bigotry on license plates...

Grr

[Stepup2]

53. Give em enough rope

and they will hang themselves with their own hatred.

It seems to me if would be much safer for many of us if they continue to telegraph exactly "who" they are... at least we know who to avoid.

Rather than throw my pearls before such swine, I continue to talk to "reasonable" people who maybe on the fence of this whole issue.

[kweerwolf]

55. "Virginia is for lovers" ... WTF?

Seems like it hasn't been too long ago that Virginia was trying to promote tourism in the state with the slogan "Virginia is for lovers." At the time I thought "lovers" was an odd term to use since it is non-gender specific and does carry a connotation of hot, sweating boy-on-boy sex since I know so many gay couples who refer to their partners as lovers.

Sounds a bit like the tourism officials in Virginia wised up that their old slogan was creatin' a hot bed of sodomitical homo-SEC-shuls right in their decent, God-fearin' state and are now trying to fix that misconception with the "traditional marriage between first cousins" license plates. That should do the trick ... at least until spring when the "Virginia is for haters" ad campaign begins.

[Borgnine]

57. I can't wait to get out of this fucking state.

It's so close from getting its backward head out of its ass. The liberal population has grown rapidly in recent years, but shit like this reflects poorly on all of us.

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[blue neen]

66. Yeah, he's doing one heck of a job promoting that Peace and Good Will.

He's a hypocrite.

[elshiva]

67. Christ is not a bigot!

Christ is a lover. Virginia should be for lovers again. "Tradition Marriage" is code language for a hatred Christ would never condone. Love your neighbor, hon, don't take his/her civil rights away.
When did the Prince of Peace tell you to bomb Iraqis? God preserve us from this nut.
Oh, and I think the slogan "I LOVERMONT" is so appropriate. Thank you Dr. Dean and thank you God.

[tuvor]

68. "Traditional Marriage"? You mean, when women were property?????????????n/t

[JusticeForAll]

69. Why do these people always flaunt their heterosexuality?!?!

sickos

:puke:

[beam me up scottie]

83. LMAO!

:yourock:

[JohnLocke]

71. Wow.

Just...wow. Unbelievable.

Is this for real?

[njdemocrat106]

73. Disgusting

It's shame, because I always enjoy visiting Virginia. :(

[slor]

74. Capitalizing on hatred...

I will never again visit that state if they do this, and they need to hear that from all decent Americans.

[TrogL]

75. Raht. This means war.

[Moloch]

77. We have to propose a "Support Gay Marriage"

license plate. Here in Louisiana, the state legislature tried to have a pro-life license plate issued and a pro-choice license plate was proposed, the state legislature didn't want to issue a pro-choice one so they ended up issuing neither!

[peacebird]

81. how about an "Equal Rights For Everyone!" plate?

[Moloch]

84. I would go along with that!

[RubyDuby in GA]

85. Is this part of the same bill that

would make gay people sew pink triangles on all their clothes?

WTF??????? I never thought I'd say this, but those people are crazier than the idiots here in Georgia.

[Bouncy Ball]

88. That's it.

I'm straight and I'm in a different state but a BIG OL' RAINBOW sticker is going on the back of my car TODAY.

Fucking A those are some messed up hateful bigots.

Oh and no visiting Virginia, EVER. Sorry to you blue-ies there, but nope.

[Soth]

89. Virginia is a beautiful state...

And its beauty is being destroyed by hatefulness and intolerance. I live in VA, and I love its natural beauty, but to all those who say they'll never visit, I understand completely. Shit like this angers me. I wish there was a way to keep the land and get rid of the bigots.

[RubyDuby in GA]

90. Hi Soth, welcome to DU

I understand exactly how you feel. Georgia is a beautiful state that being run over by the psychos. I wish they'd move back to wherever they came from and leave us alone.

[manxkat]

106. here here n/t

[Redstone]

91. Do you and your spouse have to be cousins

to get one of these plates? That IS a "traditional marriage" in Virginia, isn't it?

Redstone

[Virginian]

92. Why, YES, redstone we do. Do you always stereotype people?

[Rockholm]

101. Nope. It's West Virginia.

Only kidding. Please every state has their "backwoods hillbilly" stereotype. Often very wrong and unfunny, but sometimes, you gotta laugh.

[WoodrowFan]

96. it's not done yet.

Even if the General ASSembly in Richmond approves the pl8s, they still have legal hopes to jump through. here are the requirements...

(Source: http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/citizen/vehicles/special_plate_process.asp)

Organizational/Individual Inquiry:

Legislation approved by the General Assembly is necessary to authorize the issuance of all special license plates. By law, special license plates authorized by the General Assembly can be developed and issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) subject to the following statutory requirements:
If 350 or more prepaid applications are submitted to DMV within 180 days of the effective date of the authorization associated with the applications, the license plates can be developed and issued subject to the appropriate approvals.

If the $3,500 administrative fee is received by DMV within 180 days of the effective date of the authorization, the license plates can be developed.

After timely payment of the $3,500 administrative fee, if 350 or more prepaid applications are submitted to DMV within two years of the effective date of the authorization, the license plates can be issued and the administrative fee will be refunded.

However, if 350 or more prepaid applications are not received by DMV within two years of the effective date of the authorization, the license plates cannot be issued and the administrative fee cannot be refunded. The administrative fee will be refunded only if 350 or more prepaid applications are submitted to DMV within two years of the effective date of the authorization.

If either (i) the 350 or more prepaid applications, or (ii) the $3,500 administrative fee are not received by DMV within 180 days of the effective date of the authorization, the license plates cannot be developed or issued.

It is DMV's policy to designate one group or individual to sponsor newly-authorized special license plates in order to coordinate the design approval process and to facilitate the collection of the applications and the associated fees.

Sponsor facilitates the collection of the applications and the associated issuance fees, and coordinates the design approval process and payment of the $3,500 administrative fee, when appropriate.

DMV requires written authorization for use of the design for the plate.

Sponsor must provide electronic media artwork for plate design.

The cost for most special license plates for organizations is $10 per year in addition to the prescribed registration fee and any other fees, where applicable. For most revenue sharing license plates, the issuance fee is $25 per year instead of $10.

[tom_paine]

97. You just knew the Busheviks would find some way to be different than the

Nazis.

Instead of the Homsexuals being forced to wear Pink Triangles, let's put Bloody Triangles on vehciles belonging to Party Members.

[Ian David]

98. Virginia "Pro-Family" license plates should read, "Vandalize Me"

Those hateful, ignorant bastards should be careful where they park.

[tom_paine]

107. Let's not sink to their level

I can't condone that.

[manxkat]

104. I moved from VA

in 2003 after 50 years there -- yes, born and raised right near Falwell and crew. It's gorgeous in the mountains. You just have to look down at the low-life fundamentalists for what they are. Now I'm in NC although, as an openly gay man, I sometimes wonder if I should have moved to Canada, The Netherlands, New Zealand, or another country where people like me aren't considered threatening. Sheesh. The U.S. is now such an embarassment on just about every front.

[ncrainbowgrrl]

109. my quick photoshopped bumper sticker response:

I know, I know- many Virginians aren't bigotted. However, this was just a gut reaction.

[Ian David]

110. VirginiaisForHaters.org

Why the Boycott? Because more than marriage is at stake!
We're here to prove that when a U.S. state attacks the fundamental rights of gay and lesbian citizens, gays and lesbians know how to fight back. Our friends and families are cheering us on. Please join forward-thinking Americans across the country in boycotting Virginia companies and their products and services. And by all means, don't take your tourism dollars there until they disprove their new slogan, "Virginia is for Haters."

http://www.virginiaisforhaters.org/

[livinginphotographs]

114. That fucking pisses me off to no end.

Why are they so threatened that they have to put this shit on license plates?

I hate my fucking state sometimes....

[Langley85]

119. Ridiculous

People insist so much on keeping "traditional values". Well, a few hundred years ago, not even that long ago, "traditional values" included the oppression of women and the right to own slaves.

[TaleWgnDg]

120. Welcome to DU, Langley85 . . . n/t

[Langley85]

121. Thanks

:)