gay parents' rights-a slightly different viewpoint.

[niyad]

a friend and I were discussing the whole absurd nonsense about people adamantly opposed to gay rights, gay marriage and gay parenting, and she made the following observation to her kids (both adults)

she said that parents, no matter their determination to do the best they can, will still screw up, and it is her firm belief that gays have just as much right to screw up their kids as hets do.

I am certain that dear old dobby over at fungus is just going to love this--pity the switchboard isn't open on weekends!!

[Ian David]

1. James Dobson is too busy showering with little boys...

because Dobson's penis magically transforms all little boys who behold its wonders into heterosexual masturbators.

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2. Ian do you have some dirt that the rest of us don't?

please share!

[Ian David]

3. James Dobson; Advocates showering with little boys and masturbating

Dr. Dobson's Newsletter: June, 2002
Can Homosexuality Be Treated and Prevented?

<snip>

Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger.

Based on my work with adult homosexuals, I try to avoid the necessity of a long and sometimes painful therapy by encouraging parents, particularly fathers, to affirm their sons' maleness. Parental education, in this area and all others, can prevent a lifetime of unhappiness and a sense of alienation. When boys begin to relate to their fathers, and begin to understand what is exciting, fun and energizing about their fathers, they will learn to accept their own masculinity. They will find a sense of freedom—of power—by being different from their mothers, outgrowing them as they move into a man's world. If parents encourage their sons in these ways, they will help them develop masculine identities and be well on their way to growing up straight. In 15 years, I have spoken with hundreds of homosexual men. I have never met one who said he had a loving, respectful relationship with his father. 18

More:
http://www.family.org/docstudy/newsletters/a0021043.cfm


Also:


Challenges in the Teen Years

Masturbation

Dr. Dobson Answers Your Questions

Q. My 13-year-old son is in the full bloom of adolescence. I’m suspicious that he may be masturbating when he’s alone, but I don’t quite know how to approach him about it. Should I be concerned, and if so, what should I say to him?

<snip>

What should you as a father say to your 13-year-old son about this subject? My advice is to say nothing after puberty has occurred. You will only cause embarrassment and discomfort. For those who are younger, it would be wise to include the subject of masturbation in the “Preparing for Adolescence” conversation I have recommended on other occasions. I would suggest that parents talk to their 12- or 13-year-old boys, especially, in the same general way my mother and father discussed this subject with me.

We were riding in the car, and my dad said, “Jim, when I was a boy, I worried so much about masturbation. It really became a scary thing for me because I thought God was condemning me for what I couldn’t help. So I’m telling you now that I hope you don’t feel the need to engage in this act when you reach the teen years, but if you do, you shouldn’t be too concerned about it. I don’t believe it has much to do with your relationship with God.”

What a compassionate thing my father did for me that night in the car. He was a very conservative minister who never compromised his standards of morality to the day of his death. He stood like a rock for biblical principles and commandments. Yet he cared enough about me to lift from my shoulders the burden of guilt that nearly destroyed some of my friends in the church. This kind of “reasonable” faith taught to me by my parents is one of the primary reasons I never felt it necessary to rebel against parental authority or defy God.

Those are my views, for what they are worth. I know my recommendations will be inflammatory to some people. If you are one of them, please forgive me. I can only offer the best advice of which I’m capable. I pray that in this instance I am right.

— Dr. James Dobson

This article was adapted from Complete Marriage and Family Home Reference Guide by Dr. James Dobson with the permission of Tyndale House Publishers, Inc. Copyright 2000 by James Dobson, Inc. All rights reserved. International copyright secured.

Last updated: May 2005

More:
http://www.focusonyourchild.com/develop/art1/A0000553.html


Would it be intellectually dishonest if I didn't point out that Dobson doesn't (as far as I know) encourage masturbating at the same time as showwering with little boys? Yeah, I think it would.

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4. I prefer it the slanderous way, m'self.

It's really good that Dobson is pointing these things out, because certainly fathers don't usually teach their sons to be macho. And fathers who try to butch up their sons always turn them straight. Definitely. It's all those fathers who put their sons in dresses and had tea parties with them-- that's where little gay boys come from.

[Ian David]

5. Amazing that so many anti-gay people have gay children, isn't it?

'Family Fundamentals': Gay kids, unhappy parents

By PAULA NECHAK
SPECIAL TO THE POST-INTELLIGENCER

Three families expose their private pain in "Family Fundamentals," Arthur Dong's compassionate, potent documentary about, once again, gay and lesbian issues.

More:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/movies/93670_family01q.shtml

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6. GOOD GRIEF!! I thought my head was going to explode...

just reading the @%&# he has postd on his site. Absolutely shameful!

And the fundies WONDER why some of us have given up on ChristiaNUTY!?!?

[Jamastiene]

7. Ya know, that reminds me of something my favorite teacher said...

It was during orientation day when they hand out the syllabus and explain the rules. I was in this trade program at the time and did not see it coming. I half expected him to laugh at the rule about hate speech and bigotry. He said, something to this effect:
He never knocks gay people because he know one. He worked with a guy for 20 years and didn't know in all that time because he never told him. When he found out, he was more stunned that anything because he never even suspected. He's (the teacher) been married twice. The first wife took half and the second wife took the other half. He went on to say either you are married or you are happy. He said he was happy. He thought gay people should have the same right to decide whether to be married or be happy.

I thought that was a refreshing change from the mentality of the vast majority of the people in this area. Most here are very homophobic. He really earned my respect that day. I thought his story was funny in a way because of his belief that you can either be happy or married, but not both.