Outsidepride.com complains about "Homosexuality on Television"

[Mazie Gordon]

Hi, longtime member, but infrequent poster. A friend of mine received this e-mail from a gardener's supply company, Outside Pride, Inc. and asked me to post it to DU, thinking that some may want to share their thoughts or cease sharing their dollars with Mr. Hake.


Begin forwarded message:


From: [e-mail]
Date: August 8, 2006 2:43:02 AM EDT
To: **************
Subject: Homosexuality on Television
Reply-To: [e-mail]


This is not your typical newsletter from Outsidepride.com, Inc. In fact, this is the first one in six years which is not business related. I apologize for cluttering your inbox with an unsolicited email; however you are free to unsubscribe just by clicking the link at the bottom.
I want to share with you my television viewing experience the other night on prime time television. I ask those of you who agree with me to go to www.cbs.com and go to the bottom of the page, click the feedback link and express your opinion. I know the vast majority of you will agree with me as all polls indicate. We are the majority, not the minority as the liberal media would lead you to believe.


My wife and I sat down to watch television the other night with our children. Cold Case was on which is normally a fairly enjoyable show to watch; however, the last half hour of the show dealt with a young man who wished he had asked his male friend to come with him (long story short). The show ended with the two men hugging and obvious intimation they had discovered their gay feelings towards each other. The very next show was Without A Trace. The whole last half hour of this show was about two lesbians who were struggling with their feelings of lesbianism. It ended with full acceptance from one father and the two lesbians making out. Yes, they were kissing right at the end of the show on public prime time television. So much for wholesome family television.


Now, I am NOT trying to bash homosexuals and I am not a bigot; however, I feel homosexuality is morally wrong and should not be "promoted" as what is the norm for society. Text books are being rewritten as I am writing this to "highlight" every homosexual who has made a contribution to society. There are teachers who have been asked to make sure students know that, "This person in history was a homosexual." History is being rewritten to promote homosexuality and prime time television is doing its best to make homosexuality a "normal" behavior. If homosexuality was the norm, civilization would have ceased to exist thousands of years ago. Procreation takes a man and a woman. There was Adam and then there was Eve, not Adam and Steve.


There are literally tens of thousand of you reading this email right now. If you are tired of the way public television is going let CBS know! It will only take about 1 minute of your time. Again, just go to www.cbs.com and click the feedback link at the bottom. It is time the majority speak up and not let the minority run this country. The majority can bring back the Christian heritage this country was founded on because it is, "In God We Trust."


Thank you for your time,








Troy Hake
President
Outsidepride.com, Inc.




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[iconoclastic cat]

1. I commented on their site.

Along the lines of, "Sorry, but you are a bigot. Please be honest with yourself."

[AKBushater]

2. Well, the name of his company

certainly is ironic! What a jack*ss.

[meegbear]

4. LOL! Indeed ...

and :party: WELCOME ABOARD! :party:

[meegbear]

3. Thanks for the info ...

and :party: WELCOME ABOARD! :party:

[BattyDem]

5. An easy way to "figure out" if the statement is bigoted or not

Take a look at this statement: "Now, I am NOT trying to bash homosexuals and I am not a bigot; however, I feel homosexuality is morally wrong and should not be "promoted" as what is the norm for society."

Not a bigot? Let's change a few words and see if this passes the "no bigotry" test, shall we?

"Now, I am NOT trying to bash Judaism and I am not a bigot; however, I feel Judaism is morally wrong and should not be "promoted" as what is the norm for society."

Or how about this:

"Now, I am NOT trying to bash interracial marriage and I am not a bigot; however, I feel interracial marriage is morally wrong and should not be "promoted" as what is the norm for society."


Hmmmm ... sure sounds like bigotry to me! :eyes:


You know what pisses me off the most about idiots like this guy? Just because HE believes something is morally wrong, he thinks the rest of society should be altered to accommodate his beliefs. :mad:

[Ayesha]

6. My email to them

Dear Troy,

I am writing to inform you that your bigotry has cost you a customer. Yes, you are a bigot even though you try to assert otherwise, because it is obvious that you do not actually know any gay or lesbian people and are in no place to judge our "morality". I am a lesbian and my "lifestyle" and way of life is really no different than anyone else's. I was raised in Indiana in a loving family with strong values: I was taught to be honest, hardworking, and to give back to the community. I have a job helping cancer patients at a nonprofit organization, I have friends, I contribute to charity. I don't drink or go to bars. I am in a partnership for life and we just bought a house (with a nice backyard for which we now won't be purchasing any of your gardening products). I'm as normal as anyone else - I'm just married to a woman instead of a man.

I too saw that episode of Without A Trace, and found it very hopeful. Again, if you actually knew gay or lesbian people, you'd realize that it showed a major struggle we often go through: telling our parents whom we fear may say it's "morally wrong" to love someone simply because they're of the same gender. Many gay people are cut off from their families because their parents hold opinions like yours, and so they can't have an open, honest relationship with them. Is that what you really want, for people to be cut off from their families? If you TRULY have "family values" you would not send out e-mails expressing alleged moral outrage over a topic you know little to nothing about. You would see that that episode was all about family values and how important it is to love and accept your kids for who they are.

Oh and by the way, their kiss at the end was no different than a thousand heterosexual kisses seen on TV every day. If you don't want your kids to see people making out, don't let them watch TV period, cause it's on every show, at every time. And if you want to object to that go ahead, but it's bigotry to be more outraged simply because it was two women.

I believe that God made me a lesbian, and God doesn't make mistakes. I cannot change who I am, and your e-mailed diatribe did nothing but affirm my pride in the honest, moral way I live my life. The only thing you succeeded in changing is where I buy my gardening products! That said, homosexuality isn't curable, but hate is. Should you ever have a change of heart and choose love over blind ignorance, please let your e-mail list know and you will regain a customer.

Karin

[sui generis]

7. I would have used considerably more fertilizer

in my reply.

He is of the caliber of human that honestly believes that it is a choice that people make based upon what they see as "normal" portrayed on prime time television.

Well, Ozzie and Harriet sleeping in twin beds and not allowed to use the preggers word on television - that was abnormal. Mrs. Cleaver vacuuming 12 hours a day in a starched dress, heels, and pearls, and serving chocolate chip and oatmeal cookies all day long, is not reality. Reality is kids committing suicide because they are told in every message that they are abnormal even though they themselves know they haven't "made a choice". Reality is kids trying so hard to conform to someone else's idea of what they should be that they live lies, destroy relationships, and end up trying to destroy everyone else who isn't as miserable as they are.

The reality of being told there is no "normal" life to a gay teenager is self-destructive behaviors, low self-esteem, and being physically in danger because some people who don't think they're bigots also believe it's okay to look the other way when the Gwen Arraus and Matthew Shepards get what they deserve when they get beaten to death or hung on fences in Montana, think it's okay to be disgusted by Phelps protesting military funerals, but not gay funerals, nevermind that some military funerals are also of gay men and women who have given life and limb for their country.

It is infuriating to be told that having red hair or green eyes is enough of a reason to protest our existence because if we "really wanted to we could change" our eye color and our hair color. But every night before bed in front of the mirror would be the lie of that.

I will never buy anything with that trademark on it, ever again. You're the better person Ayesha. I could not have responded as eloquently.

[triakis36]

8. Which episodes were these?

Anybody know the titles of the episodes mentioned here?

[idgiehkt]

9. big ups to Without a Trace

That show ROCKS. That has got to be the most liberal show on regular tv right now. They did a whole episode on deranged pro-life people that ended with a dramatized speech by a nurse who had been maimed by a pipe bomb explosion at a clinic, it was stunning. She looked as bad as the nurse that this actually happened to.

[Kerrytravelers]

10. My email to the company.

You can pretend that you're not a bigot, but you indeed are. Whenever you suggest that someone isn't "normal" because they are different from you, you are a bigot.

And since you've chosen to put your business name on your email, I will no longer use your services. In fact, your email is being posted on anti-bigot sites all over the Internet. You email is clearly written in an attempt to find others bigots like yourself. Thankfully, in a civilized society, people like you are indeed the minority, as the polls done by reputable sources show.

You are a very small person who is full of hate. And clearly, you are ignorant.

After we're done putting the faggots on the back of the bus, which would you like next? The niggers? The spics? The chinks? Think this closing paragraph sounds awful? It sounds just like you, only not as disingenuous.

[foreigncorrespondent]

11. My email!

Firstly let me just say did you know it is against the law to spam people? You might own the list you are sending your diatribe to, but that does not give you a pass with the law.

As I sit here it is just after 5pm my time. I have my television on a Criminal Investigation channel and I am actually faced with commercials flaunting the heterosexual lifestyle (your chosen lifestyle apparently.) But this type of heterosexual display doesn't just happen on my chosen channel. I could flick around all the channels I have right now and face, heterosexuals parading their lifestyle choices, like there is no tomorrow. Yet, according to bigots like yourself, it is the queer community who flaunt. Give yourself a pass why don't you!

Do you think every heterosexual person will have sex the exact same way? God made us all diverse for a reason, and that reason is simply because the world would be a really boring place if we were all just like you.

Now, please don't get me wrong, I am not trying to bash your chosen lifestyle, just show you that you are actually wrong with what is shown on TV. Perhaps you should take the time to sit down and begin paying attention to exactly how much heterosexual sex you see on tv, to how many lesbian kisses you see on tv. Unless you watch The L Word,or Queer as Folk (which I bet you don't) you won't actually see that many same sex kisses, only the stories evolving around real life issues the gay community faces. And by the way, that is exactly what Cold Case and Without a Trace do with their stories which cover homosexuality.

Just last year I watched an episode of Cold Case where a young homosexual boy was murdered for nothing more than loving someone of the same sex. And he was killed by people who go around lording their heterosexualism while saying they aren't bigots. In other people just like you. Now, don't get me wrong again, I am not equating you with the murderers who kill fags for pleasure, only showing you, that they have very similar viewpoints that you displayed in your diatribe.

And yes, it will only take a minute of my time to write to CBS to thank them for showing stories which cover issues of concern for the LGBTIQQ community in our world today. And that is exactly what I did. Thank you for giving me that idea.

By the way, I might be in Australia, but you bet your business I know a hell of a lot of citizens of the U.S. who will be shown your email (which is now circulating the Internet on sites which ridicule you for being so blind) and who will either never spend a penny at your store, or stop spending their pennies in your store.

Have a nice life, and remember those in business really should keep their mouth shut where political issues are concerned. Not keeping mouths shut gives a lot of business the key to the local bankruptcy court.