Pope Ratso Attacks Gay Marriage in Christmas Address

[Ian David]

Pope Attacks Gay Marriage in Christmas Address
12/22/2006

Pope Benedict XVI, in a Christmas address to the Rome clergy, took the opportunity to slam both gay and unmarried couples. He warned that mankind would destroy its own identity should it follow theories which place same-sex couples at the same level as husband and wife, theories "according to which man should be able to decide autonomously what he is and what he isn't."

He added that supporting same-sex marriage "tacitly accredits those dismal theories that strip all relevance from the masculinity and femininity of the human being as though it were a purely biological issue."

The Pope defended his right to speak out about the relationships as tensions rise in the Italian parliament and between the Vatican and Italian Prime Minister Romano Prodi, who has pledged to fulfill a campaign promising civil partnership rights for both same-sex and unmarried couples. Said Benedict: "I cannot hide my concern about legislation on de facto couples...if they say the Church shouldn't interfere in these matters, then we can only reply: should mankind perhaps not interest us?"

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[ayeshahaqqiqa]

1. Don't see it the same way the Pope does

I think clergy should decide if they should marry or not, same as two committed persons should be able to decide if they should marry or not.

[Parche]

2. pope on a rope

Cant you feel the love????



"The steps Man takes across the heavens of his universe are as uncertain as those steps he takes across the rooms of his own life. And yet if he walks with an open mind, those steps must lead him eventually to that most perfect of all destinations, truth."

[jgraz]

3. Keep talkin, Popey

The more you advocate for hate and stupidity, the more marginalized your silly religion becomes.

[Jella]

12. I sure hope so

but as long as they keep recruiting kids into their cult, it's going to take generations.

[Creideiki]

4. Odd time to be obsessing over whether or not same-sex couples are getting recognized

Shouldn't this be about, you know, the joy of Christmas, how the Savior has come to redeem us, that sort of thing? Some people seem to be obsessing an awful lot about this.

[Tuesday_Morning]

5. why is the Pope obsessed with homosexuality?

http://www.out.com/detail.asp?page=1&id=21655

When in Rome

<snip>

Gay Italians, almost to a man, talk about the pope’s red shoes when Benedict XVI comes up in conversation, which is all the time. Everyone (except for the commander) says that Papa got his shoes at Prada, and when you ask why this matters, they say it proves he’s hypocritically materialistic.

And gay.

<snip>

[thingfisher]

6. The Pope wears Prada? Isn't that a movie

starring Meryl Streep?

[closeupready]

8. Maybe his red shoes remind him of home?

and how there's no place like it? :evilgrin:

[Tuesday_Morning]

13. His boyfriend is his private secretary.

Or so the rumor goes.

Fabio Canino, Italy’s most popular gay TV personality (a toothy, beefy Graham Norton), opened his show the day Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was chosen pope with a shot of pink smoke emerging from a chimney. “He loves shopping, and I love shopping,” Canino says with a smirk.

Casually, he adds, “Everybody knows he is gay, and his boyfriend is his private secretary.” He Googles “Georg + segretario di Papa” to show me a photo of the dashing blond Monsignor Georg Gänswein, a 50-year-old amateur pilot, tennis player, and former ski instructor, whom the Italian press has compared to George Clooney and Hugh Grant.

http://gallery.quotidiano.net/foto_scroll_leader.php?directory=genswein_monsignor_georg_segretario_di_papa_ratzinger

[goddess40]

23. Has he ever said he was sorry about being a Nazi Youth?

if not that might be a clue.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. the pope is a fucking prick.

[closeupready]

9. I also find it peculiar this new focus on the "masculine/feminine"

axis. What's THAT all about? So if you're a masculine gay man or a feminine (lipstick) lesbian, where does that put you in terms of divine favor??? :eyes:

[La Lioness Priyanka]

10. lol. its funny that god might love me more han my gf based on gender conformity.

cos in all honesty shes a much nicer person

[closeupready]

15. yeah and is Ratzinger saying

that a) God loves that which is natural more than that which is artificial; b) stereotypical gender expectations are natural; therefore c) God loves more those who conform to gender stereotypes?

I guess Ratzinger thinks God will make an exception in his case. :evilgrin: :D

[VaYallaDawg]

11. The latest nonsense from a man in a dress and Prada shoes.

[Tyo]

14. The Pope is an ass

and increasingly irrelevant even among his own flock. I would bet that most Catholics ignore at least half of what he says and when it comes to their sex lives it's probably closer to 100% There is no reason for me to pay any attention to his ramblings.

[bicentennial_baby]

16. can we PLEASE stop with cathoLic bashing!!!!!?

my god, wiLL it never stop amongst you godLess LiebruLs?

edit: oops. aLways forget to Log her out.

[baby_mouse]

17. No, Ratso, "mankind" should NOT interest you, your FOLLOWERS should

You get to screw around with the people who believe the crap you spout, NOT THE REST of us, because you are the leader of a RELIGION, not a political party, you are not ELECTED by any of us, you do not REPRESENT any of us, you KNOW NOTHING ABOUT US, therefore "MANKIND" whatever that fuck that is these days SHOULD NOT INTEREST YOU, as the BULK of them have NO INTEREST IN YOU and you are POKING your RATTY NOSE where it DOES. NOT. BELONG.

Situation clarified?

Yes, yes, I know... I'm spitting into the wind...

Skeksoid creep.

[LeftCoast]

18. I guess the Pope is trying hard to become even more irrelevant

No sex before marriage, no condoms. Gays are evil. Let's ignore the priests abusing children though...

:eyes:

[kevinbgoode]

19. This, of course, is coming from the head of a church

which willfully used its political influence to cover up thousands and thousands of child sexual abuse cases within its hallowed walls for decades.

Obviously, the Catholic position is that it is certainly preferable to quietly conduct sexual activity within the confines and safety net of the Church, as long as everyone pretends that it is forbidden behavior. All those years the Church whined and moaned and condemned homosexuality and extra-marital sex while they played and played behind closed doors.

Only a "church" would be so utterly arrogant to consider itself the moral compass of humanity while it quietly and forcefully hides its own dirty activities.

[Jella]

20. I don't think I could have said it better

kevinbgood.

Bravo!

[BattyDem]

21. Great post!

:toast:

[racaulk]

24. :applause:

You said it so much better than I could have, kevinbgoode! Excellent post!

[SanFranciscoValues]

26. Amen!

The Catholic Church's hypocrisy is ridiculous. This is also coming from the same church which once claimed that the earth was flat. The same church that worked with the Nazis during WW2. The same church that still preaches against the use of condoms, condemning millions to infection of HIV/AIDS in Africa and around the world. My dog has more moral authority than the Catholic church does!

[NMMNG]

22. His obsession, like so many of his ilk,

becomes strikingly apparent when he can't help but inject it into a speech about a major religious holiday. :eyes:

[Democrats_win]

25. Jesus is the head of the Christan church NOT the pope. Misinterpretation of Bible.

There is a misinterpretation of the Bible verse that popes uses to legitimize their authority which they claim goes back to the disciple Peter. They claim that Jesus says that Peter is the foundation of the church. In that verse, Jesus is actually scolding Peter for overstepping as he so often did. Jesus points to himself and says emphatically, THIS is the foundation of the church making the point that it's not Peter. It's Jesus! Not the pope!

Some pope's were as evil as anyone who ever existed. Anyone find it interesting that the God who they claim hates gays, would accept such corrupt LEADERSHIP in his church? NO way! Perhaps all this condemnation of gays is just a smoke screen to keep people from seeing the fact that the pope has no clothes. (Hey, would Jesus wear Prada?)

However, Jesus did have a message for the pope in his Sermon on the Mount. He tells people like the pope to take the log out of his own eye before telling someone else to take the splinter out of their eye. In addition, he tells the pope not to judge others. The only thing Christians are supposed to do is love God and love each other. If he was truly the leader of the Church, wouldn't we see love? It should also be clear that this could be applied to many Church leaders such as Falwell and Pat. But these discredited fools are another subject.

[DarkTirade]

27. So basically he just said that human freedom of choice is 'bad'

and doing what the church says without question is 'good'.
Sad thing is, there are people who believe that.

[NMMNG]

30. Who are you to question the Word of God puny human?

Now get down on your knees! :P

[DarkTirade]

31. I could make a dirty joke about

priests giving that order... but I'll refrain this time. :evilgrin:

[Kerrytravelers]

28. Perhaps our dope of a pope protests a bit too much... eh?

I'm a Catholic and this pope is a human tragedy. We have refused to tithe or attend Mass until this idiot is g-o-n-e gone.

[Kerrytravelers]

29. Here you go...