Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

The Temerity Of A Kiss - Black Cat raid of 1966, celebrate this New Year's Eve with a radical act.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » GLBT Donate to DU
 
BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 08:39 AM
Original message
The Temerity Of A Kiss - Black Cat raid of 1966, celebrate this New Year's Eve with a radical act.
Cross posted in GD for those who never venture into GLBT, give it a kick if you will:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3031175

How far we have come in 40 years - how far we still have to travel



It all began exactly forty years ago this New Year’s Eve, on Sunset Blvd., in the Silverlake neighborhood of Los Angeles, in a small bar called the Black Cat. There were some sixty or seventy patrons gathered during those final moments of 1966, counting down the last few seconds to midnight. Couples gathered and stood next to each other, and as the countdown approached zero, they leaned into one other, and, amid the shouts of “Happy New Year!” and the opening strands of Auld Lang Syne, they did something all couples do all around the world. They kissed.

And immediately at least six plainclothes officers who had infiltrated the gay bar began viciously beating and arresting the kissing offenders. As the melee widened, several people tried to escape to the nearby New Faces bar. Undercover officers followed and raided that bar as well. One of the New Faces workers was beaten so badly by police that they cracked a rib, fractured his skull and ruptured his spleen.

Six Black Cat kissers were tried and convicted of “lewd or dissolute conduct” in a public place, conduct that consisted of male couples hugging and kissing. According to one police report, one couple had “kissed on the mouth for three to five seconds.” Apparently, three to five seconds are what constituted “lewd or dissolute conduct” among the LAPD.

<snip>

In a society where heterosexual couples can kiss wherever they please and lesbians kissing is considered “hot”, a kiss is still a very radical act when that kiss is shared between two men. Critics point to the popularity of Will & Grace as evidence that gay men were accepted, but long-suffering Will Truman rarely had a boyfriend. And when he finally got one, he was never allowed to kiss him on the lips. A few years ago, Oliver Stone put Alexander the Great in bed naked with Hephaistion after they expressed their undying love for each other. But even though Stone’s reputation is supposedly built on his bold interpretations of history, he chickened out and only let Alexander share his kiss with Olympia in a love scene that was more a struggle for dominance than an expression of love. And while Ennis Del Mar and Jack Tripp were finally allowed to kiss each other in the remotest reaches of Brokeback Mountain where nobody could see them, all of that kissing still came to an end some twenty-five years ago with Jack’s brutal murder.

Forty years after the Black Cat raid, men still cannot be seen kissing each other, at least not without one of them dying.

http://www.boxturtlebulletin.com/2006/12/27/171
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 08:44 AM
Response to Original message
1. interesting.....
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 09:36 AM
Response to Original message
2. Great read!
Thanks!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-28-06 10:26 AM
Response to Original message
3. Powerful
Thanks for posting.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nofurylike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 05:09 AM
Response to Original message
4. how sick, pit lesbians against gays. sick writing. don't reply. bye.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 05:35 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Funny, I didn't get that out of it.
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-30-06 09:53 AM
Response to Reply #4
6. I don't see how you could read anything remotely like that into this
article.

As a gay man, the only thing I feel about lesbians kissing is that I'm happy that they have found someone in their life that they feel that way about. I don't share the straight boy fantasy about it that seems so prevailent in today's society.

It's a history of gay repression - which certainly included lesbians. The biggest difference that I can see from the histories that I have read is that, because of the common cultural expecations of the time, women were supposed to find a husband and marry and have kids - those who didn't became spinsters and many of them lived together. Certainly some portion were lesbians in relationships, but the general public probably didn't see it as that, they were more likely to think that those women just weren't "lucky" enough to "catch" a man. I don't recall ever reading about women's groups or clubs getting the police crackdowns like those mentioned in this article or Stonewall - but if you know of some sources, I'd love to see them. There still is no complete GLBT history - it seems to be mostly bits and pieces.

But in terms of repression, I'd stand to defend you sister, even if I weren't having to stand to defend myself. Peace
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 05:10 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » GLBT Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC