Sheriff Removes Gay Hate Remarks From County Website

Ian David

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Thu Jan-27-05 02:39 PM
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Sheriff Removes Gay Hate Remarks From County Website

Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 02:39 PM by IanDB1

Sheriff Removes Gay Hate Remarks From County Website
by 365Gay.com Newscenter Staff

Posted: January 26, 2005 7:32 pm. ET

(Guntersville, Alabama) Marshall County Sheriff Mac Holcomb under pressure from county officials has removed anti-gay remarks he posted on the official page of the Sheriff in the County's Web site.
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The sheriff, reflecting on growing up in the 1940s and 1950s, wrote: "Men were men and women were women and there was no mistaking which was which ... Homosexuality was very queer and a despicable act ... an abomination."
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But, Holcomb initially refused to remove the message. He has now taken it down from the county site and moved it to his personal website. He defends the remarks though, saying they are his personal beliefs.

After Hunter went public with his complaint about Holcomb he has been the recipient of hate mail from Holcomb supporters. He said it was discouraging until he learned that the hate remarks had been removed.

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/01/012605heriff.htm

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I think that it's awful that Don Hunter, the man who blew the whistle on Sheriff Roscoe P. Holcomb, has been the victim of harassment.

I think we should send warm letters of encouragement to Mr. Hunter.

And perhaps find Sheriff Holcomb's "personal website" and respond appropriately to him, as well.

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=mozclient&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&q=%22Homosexuality+was+very+queer+and+a+despicable+act%22

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Maat

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Thu Jan-27-05 02:43 PM
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1. Does anyone have a link to his 'personal website?'

And a way to contact Mr. Don Hunter in support?

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noamnety

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Thu Jan-27-05 03:30 PM
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2. His personal website

(personal statement of God-sponsored hate)

http://www.macholcomb.org/

:eyes:

He seems to have confused “We dare defend our rights” with "I dare to trample on the rights of anyone who has a different religion than me."

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Maat

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Thu Jan-27-05 03:33 PM
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3. Thanks.

n/t

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Ian David

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Thu Jan-27-05 03:55 PM
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4. Mac Holcomb's web page

Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 04:52 PM by IanDB1

I'm having trouble deciphering his WHOIS information:
http://www.betterwhois.com/bwhois.cgi?domain=macholcomb.org&x=66&y=14

Here's some of the header info from his "private" webpage:

<html xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml"
xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"
xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word"
xmlns:dt="uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882"
xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">

<head>
<meta http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name=ProgId content=Word.Document>
<meta name=Generator content="Microsoft Word 9">
<meta name=Originator content="Microsoft Word 9">

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<o:_AdHocReviewCycleID dt:dt="float">-1772216203</o:_AdHocReviewCycleID>
<o:_EmailSubject dt:dt="string">Sheriff's Website Statement</o:_EmailSubject>
<o:_AuthorEmail dt:dt="string">tinabrown@marshallco.org</o:_AuthorEmail>
<o:_AuthorEmailDisplayName dt:dt="string">Chief of Administrations Tina Brown</o:_AuthorEmailDisplayName>
</o:CustomDocumentProperties>
</xml>

OBVIOUSLY there is a problem here because He is using THE TAXPAYER'S COPY OF MS-WORD TO CREATE A PERSONAL WEB PAGE!!

ALSO...

If you enter an invalid page on his "personal" site, it automatically links back to the orignal taxpayer-owned site.

My guess (and I could be wrong) is that the page is still hosted on the taxpayer's dollars

See also:
http://www.queer-voice.com/index.php?/weblog/marshall_county_sheriff_removes_letter/

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noamnety

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Thu Jan-27-05 04:13 PM
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5. question

Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 05:00 PM by lwfern

If I enter a wrong page (like index2.html after the .org/) I don't get kicked back to the government site. How are you getting back there?

I'm not surprised about it being generated in the government copy of word though, because it was originally written on the tax payer dime - nobody is denying that. So he likely just copied the file and hosted it up himself. Or not, as you're getting linked back to the official page. I doubt he knows how to host it, because if he were web savvy it wouldn't have been created in Word, so maybe one of his faithful (no pun intended) employees took care of him.

Edit: I looked up the whois on both sites, and they do appear to be different.

MacHolcomb.org:
Record expires on 24-Jan-2010
Record created on 24-Jan-2005
Database last updated on 24-Jan-2005

Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS

NS1.BLUEHOST.COM 209.63.57.200
NS2.BLUEHOST.COM 209.63.57.201

marshallco.org:

Record expires on 12-Mar-2008
Record created on 07-Oct-2002
Database last updated on 08-Jul-2004

Domain servers in listed order: Manage DNS

NS1.HIWAAY.NET 216.180.99.6
NS2.HIWAAY.NET 216.180.122.6

(from http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/whois/index.jhtml )

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Ian David

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Thu Jan-27-05 04:48 PM
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6. Thanks. Here's what I did

Edited on Thu Jan-27-05 05:01 PM by IanDB1

Oh, by the way, it's MacHolcomb.org , not Holcomb.org .

Anyway, I tried to access the images directory, and it defaulted back to the municipal page.

Main page:
www.MacHolcomb.org

I entered:
http://www.macholcomb.org/images

it then defaulted back to:
http://www.marshallco.org/www/

...which is the original municipal page.

I think that either MacHolcolmb.org has domain masking, or else is improperly registered?

Latest chatter on Sheriff Roscoe P. Holcomb:
http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&q=%22%40macholcomb.org%22&btnG=Search

http://news.google.com/news?q=%22Mac%20Holcomb%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wn
http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Mac+Holcomb%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&tab=nw&ie=UTF-8&sa=N

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noamnety

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Thu Jan-27-05 05:01 PM
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7. Thanks!

I went back and changed holcomb to macholcomb in my post, that was just a typo on my part. You're right on the images part, yep. That's a bit suspicious.

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Maat

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Thu Jan-27-05 05:08 PM
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8. At least I find comfort in the fact that the really good computer

gurus and website gurus are on our side.

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Ian David

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Thu Jan-27-05 05:12 PM
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9. Sheriff Roscoe P. Mac Holcomb responds

Guest Comments: Sheriff responds to critics

By Sheriff Mac Holcomb
Sand Mountain Reporter

Published January 22, 2005

Dear Editor,

My view has always been and will continue to be that homosexuality is against the moral code and behavior based upon the Old and New Testament. It is my personal belief that we are committed to living, as close as possible, by the moral principles taught by Jesus Christ and the whole counsel of God as revealed in the Bible. I am not tolerant of behaviors which destroy individuals, families and our culture. After all, traditional values are based upon biblical foundations and principles outlined in the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution.

My views on law enforcement and morality were widely known when I began my first campaign. In the fall of 1994, while running for sheriff for the first time, I placed a quarter-page red letter political ad in all three county newspapers. It said, “I believe in the Lord’s word that this despicable act is an abomination.”

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God is the only judge of this sin… not Mac Holcomb; however, my personal conviction and God’s word is obvious to me that homosexuality is an abomination and nothing less. Of course, we can twist biblical scripture into that which satisfies our personal agenda but then again, does that make our lifestyle or choices right with God?

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http://www.sandmountainreporter.com/story.lasso?wcd=6366

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