Gay scientists isolate the Christian gene

[Mabus]

Pink Tiger Lab announces it has isolated the Christian gene. It has prevented a rat from being born Christian and hopes it can someday do the same for humans.

Christians claim Christianity is a lifestyle choice but the Pink Tiger lab says it is genetic and they are working to prevent it.

http://current.com/items/88874568_gay_scientists_isolate_the_christian_gene

[acmavm]

1. Okay. I am Christian and apparently you don't need my support or

understanding.

And as of now, you don't have it.

[Ian David]

3. Sounds like you were just looking for an excuse to throw gay people under the bus all along.

How quickly we forget that christians are an oppressed minority in this country. Until the day we have openly-christian people serving in Congress, or an openly-christian President, we should lay off the poor, oppressed christians.

[acmavm]

8. No slick, I am just really sick and tired of reading shit where all Christians

are lumped in a group with those that are anti-whatever. I don't have to put up with that shit any more than you have to put up with anti-GLBT crap.

You don't like it? I don't care. You get what you give.

[Malikshah]

14. When they bring back the lions, then you can complain. Until then

deal with the ramifications of your co-religionists bigotry.

Don't like it-- then condemn it.

[Ian David]

16. The phrase, "Cry me a fucking river" comes readily to mind. n/t

[FightTheRight89]

21. You sound like Dick Cheney...

With his "So?" comment.

I agree with the right of the poster to post the OP, but I and other Christians have a right to take huge offense to the OP. The jury's still out on whether or not ALL homosexuality is a lifestyle choice. Yes, I believe that homosexuals should have totally equal legal rights as heterosexuals. But we really don't know what causes homosexuality, do we?

What bugs me more about the post is that Christianity is implied to be a bad thing.

[Creideiki]

25. As Jon Stewart would say...

Poor Christians. You've only run the country for, what, 230 years?

My, what oppression.

[FightTheRight89]

28. What are you talking about?

Your comment was totally irrelevant. I'm not claiming to be oppressed.

[Creideiki]

32. Wow. Please don't feed or tease the straight people again

One thing is certain. Whether or not some people that engage in same-sex activity do so by choice (we tend to call them "bisexuals"--they can be attracted to persons of either sex), I would never deign to suggest that Christianity is anything but a choice, nor that they should be denied full legal rights. So you're safe. I hope you retain your full legal rights for the lifestyle that you've chosen.

However, suggesting that every person that identifies as gay or lesbian is following a single "lifestyle" is a bit naive. I tend to prefer a somewhat more suburban (maybe even rural) lifestyle--just like some straight people may choose a suburban or rural lifestyle as opposed to an urban lifestyle.

Now, rather than flat out describing the stupidity of such a statement, I chose a more oblique method.

[FightTheRight89]

35. The word lifestyle is just semantics.

I guess by lifestyle I meant subconcious choice.

[Maven]

52. And by "homophobe"

I mean you sound like a fucking bigot.

[Creideiki]

63. Very poor and loaded semantics

It seems to indicate that there's a single way that GLBT people live.

[queerart]

26. You Know..........

At first, I said nothing in this thread as I thought that (acmavm) had a valid point.......

If the shoe was on the other foot..... and if it all had poked fun at the GLBT community... we wouldn't have liked it.......

But now..... there is a "plethora of extra bullshit" being added in:

The jury's still out on whether or not ALL homosexuality is a lifestyle choice

Ummmm.... Just What The Fuck Does That Have To Do With Making Fun Of Christians?

... AND AS WE ALL DO KNOW..... CHRISTIANITY IS A LIFESTYLE CHOICE...... PLAIN AND SIMPLE.... So what's your point pray tell?

But we really don't know what causes homosexuality, do we?

... and the jury is still out on why malcontent straights just gag to hang out and see what the Fags are talking about.....

... and just when I was sympathizing (acmavm)...... a Christian version of the "I say fuck it" Theater takes place:

You stroke with a pretty broad brush but expect to get away with it because you're 'special' and 'picked on' and insulted and denigrated?

and:

When you read and anti-gay article or hear anti gay rhetoric anywhere, you come here and want 'understanding' and support

I Say "Bravo" To You Both...... As at least there is a whiff of honor in being openly hostile about lifestyles that don't fit into your World view.....

You don't like it? I don't care. You get what you give.....

I Couldn't Have Said It Better Myself...... So Thanks For Saving Me The Time.......


(on edit) I'm bad at spelling :-)

[FightTheRight89]

29. You know?

Ummmm.... Just What The Fuck Does That Have To Do With Making Fun Of Christians?

It has to do with the entire topic of the video and this discussion. And my point was that we really don't know what causes homosexuality. This video subtly makes a dig at the notion that there is no conclusive proof that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice or genetic. I was defending that notion.

... and the jury is still out on why malcontent straights just gag to hang out and see what the Fags are talking about.....

I'm not even sure what you're saying.

I Say "Bravo" To You Both...... As at least there is a whiff of honor in being openly hostile about lifestyles that don't fit into your World view.....

Hostile? Hardly. I mentioned that I support equal rights for homosexuals.

You're the one who's using anti-gay slurs that none should use, and you're the one who's being "hostile" towards my religion. I'm not being hostile to you or homosexuality.

[queerart]

40. You Really Are A Piece Of Work.......

you're the one who's being "hostile" towards my religion

So religion now belongs to you? I see... are you just "Queen of the Christians", or do all World religions belong to you?

The funny thing is... you have no clue about me, nor my life...... and you assume much......

In your World... I'm Queer, so I couldn't have morals... nor be accepted by "True Christians"........

I mentioned that I support equal rights for homosexuals

... and funny.... I have never seen you stand up when Homophobic remarks are made.... as I read most threads.....

... but none the less.... we appreciate your heartfelt support for the GLBT community Mrs. Cleaver.....

Homosexuality as you put it...... just pisses you off.... Did you know dirty Queers have a Secret Gay Agenda?!......

We win more ground everyday Mary... all over the World :-) (now you can pretend that you are happy that we gain rights daily)

So you can now safely return to the clucking circle, and tell all of them how the dirty Queers were mean to you.... and were hostile to your religion..........

[FightTheRight89]

43. Excuse me?

I'm not King of the Christians. I said "my" religion because I'm an adherent of the Christian community. I would give you a big "Oops!" but I'm pretty sure that what I said was correct according to standards of grammar.

You're the one who's assuming things. I know homosexuals have morals. Homosexuality and Christianity are not contrary towards each other. Don't tell me that I'm not just as pro-gay rights as you are. Don't accuse me of being in line with those bigots on the Right. And don't come at me with your snarky attitude and try to portray me as the short-tempered one. Perhaps the reason I haven't stood up to defend homosexuals on this forum is because there haven't been any instances in which I've come across an opportunity. But then again, never mind. I'm the one who assumes.

P.S. I was under the impression that using the word "Queers" as you used it was offensive and that "Gay" only referred to men. So I used homosexual. Sorry if that was offensive in some crazy way.

[queerart]

45. OK... Just So We Are Clear Mary........

I now believe that you are not in fact "Queen Of The Christians"........


Maybe perhaps a Queen in a different realm? ;-)


LOL... (my snarky attitude)..... Look Ethel, everyone has pretty much given you a pass on your silliness......


... and after re-reading over your post..... it shows me that there is an oblivious difference of about a hundred years or so between us....... (whether it be chronological, or socio-geographic)........


But now...... you do know that hanging out with the Queers is gonna' give you a reputation don't you?......


That is just something you will have to deal with...........


Or you could just stop with this silly "negative attention" that you are seeking... swing open the closet door..... and we all will give you a great big Queer Hug.......

[FightTheRight89]

48. Alright then, I guess you don't want to have an intelligent conversation.

If you think I'm homophobic and that I'm sitting at my computer with a prickly tingle going up my spine because of the suggestive things you're saying, you're sorely mistaken.

And where do you get this "Mary" thing from? I'm definitely a guy, and my name is definitely not Mary, despite how snarky it allows you to sound (intentionally or not).

[queerart]

51. Awwwww..........

You Do Love me..... I can tell..... ;-)


I can grasp the fact that you are proud of yourself for knowing the word "snarky".... But you really do need to get a new routine....


I'll say this in all honesty...... You seem to be a good fellow that finds himself lonely.... and this religion post was a bone to chew on for awhile........

If you think I'm homophobic and that I'm sitting at my computer with a prickly tingle going up my spine because of what you're saying, you're sorely mistaken.

I don't think you are Homophobic per se (and honestly I don't care even if you are)...... I think in the end, it's more about you needing to connect with someone...... life is not always what we would like it to be..... so that is the best I can do for intelligent conversation on a Sunday night.....


OK.. now it's your turn to say something Bitchy.... and to remind all of us of what a virile man you are........


The community has been aware of Man-Drag for a long time....


Beware However, as those bowls of rusty bolts for breakfast can be hard on the teeth after a while..........

[FightTheRight89]

55. Alright, you don't like snarky?

Tough, dude. I'm not sure where your insults are coming from, or why you feel the need to insult me, but I'll take them nonetheless. I don't see where this conversation is going, and right now it does not seem like it's anything other than a chance for you to release your vitriol on me and for me to attempt to defend myself on deaf ears.

You can keep posting, I'm just not going to respond anymore.

[queerart]

64. Yup, I Figured As Much......

Being angry won't help.........


This posting that you have done all day long has much less to do with Religion... and much more to do with you.....


No matter how much you think I am trying to insult you, I'm simply not......


You just need to accept nature.......


(and don't stress it.... I won't post again;-) )

[FightTheRight89]

71. TO THOSE OFFENDED:

I guess I shouldn't talk about that of which I do not have firsthand experience. Sorry for being presumptive, I now see the error of my assumption that homosexuality is a subconscious choice. I guess I really don't know, and I can see how many of you would be offended. That's the only point of contention between all of you and me. I hope that we can move forward with some sort of dialogue that's constructive. I apologize for my part, my erroneous assumption and how it caused this dispute.

[Ian David]

27. I think homosexuality is caused by close proximity to christians. n/t

[FightTheRight89]

31. I think not.

And that you're totally out of line by saying that.

What if I were to say:

"I think going to hell is caused by close proximity to homosexuals."

See, that would be totally offensive, which is why I only said that in the context of an example, not as a response to your insulting quote.

[hulklogan]

33. Why do you equate homosexuality with going to hell in your example?

Do you think being gay is bad?

[FightTheRight89]

34. No, I don't.

I say that because a lot of fundamentalist Christians do, and it was a statement on par with the previous statement in terms of offensiveness and belligerence..

[hulklogan]

36. Thank you, straight person.

I'm so pleased you came here to tell us that homosexuality might maybe just possibly be a choice.

The only choice involved is whether to accept same-sex attraction. People can choose to be closeted or ex-gay, but there's no choice involved. And suggesting that there might be is misinformed at best and deliberately offensive at worst.

[FightTheRight89]

37. Sure thing, gay person.

All this boils down to is a disagreement, the answer to which neither of us can conclusively determine.

[hulklogan]

38. I'm sure that I and my GLBT brothers and sisters can determine the answer

far better than you.

Thanks! :)

[Maven]

54. It's ridiculously easy to determine

EVERY GAY PERSON ON THE PLANET tells people like you it's not a choice, yet you come here with your "jury is still out" bullshit, you arrogant piece of work. BTW, you're not fooling anyone. Just GTFO out of our* forum.

* Apologies to dwickham. :eyes:

[FightTheRight89]

59. Not fooling anyone?

What are you talking about? I admit, I'm probably wrong about the choice thing, but please don't tell me I'm arrogant or bigoted.

[Maven]

61. You are arrogant and bigoted

if you're A) repeating RW lies about "lifestyle choice," B) telling gay people that they're in no better position than you to determine whether homosexuality is a choice, C) taking terrible offense at a JOKE which associates homosexuality with your own belief system, and D) then retaliating by implying that the imputation of homosexuality is just as offensive as saying someone is going to hell.

Your own words on this thread speak loud and clear.

[FightTheRight89]

65. Doesn't work.

Accusing me of being a right-wing hack doesn't work. I took offense at the jokes made here at the expense of Christians because they characterized all Christians of being bigoted, which I am not. If it's not OK to make fun of gays, it's not OK to make fun of Christians.

You clearly didn't understand my analogy, so I direct you to previous posts because it's getting very frustrating to explain to you the logic behind it.

I admitted, I'm probably wrong and probably should have been less heavy-handed with my statement about the "jury's still out" comment, but I really haven't seen any scientific evidence for the cause of homosexuality.

[Maven]

66. No, no, no

Not so fast. The joke you responded to had nothing to do with bigotry. It made an association between your precious belief system and homosexuality, and THAT'S what you responded to. That's what you took such dire offense to, even though in the next breath you say homosexuality is A-OK. Again, not fooling anyone.

BTW, there is plenty of scientific evidence suggesting a biological basis for sexual orientation. And I take it back--people like you *are* in just as good a position to know that one's sexual orientiation is not something you choose, because I'm sure you didn't choose a "straight lifestyle." Yet people like you can't even see far enough beyond their own experience, or aren't versatile enough as thinkers, to realize that the experience of someone who is gay--the process of developing their sexual identity--was *exactly the same* as yours, just with a different outcome. That's where your bigotry and arrogance comes in. You assume *you* are the norm, the standard, therefore everyone else who's different from you might just be fooling themselves or lying. Even if they tell you otherwise, a million fucking times. You need proof.

[FightTheRight89]

68. I guess we just have different opinions...

...and that's that.

[Maven]

70. Different opinions about what?

No, there are no "opinions" here. There's the truth, that one's sexual orientation is an innate, immutable trait. And then there's a lie, meant to denigrate and delegitimize the very existence of a minority group. This is not a subject for "debate," any more than global warming "needs more study."

[Maven]

53. Why would you even compare going to hell with being gay?

Because you're a fucking bigot?

[FightTheRight89]

56. Read the post.

It was an example of something that could be said that was just as offensive as what preceded it. Sorry if you were offended.

[Maven]

58. No, sorry.

It was analogy you were drawing. In fact, the level of offense you took between the original association that was made (Christian / gay) shows your level of homophobia.

Thanks for your non-apology. Hopefully the mods will be along shortly to clean up the mess you've made in here.

[FightTheRight89]

60. The analogy was not for analogy's sake.

It was for the purpose of illustrating how offensive the original comment was. But I guess the sarcastic comment there wasn't grounds for threatening to pull the moderators on me.

[Maven]

62. Why was the original comment (which was a joke) so offensive to you?

[FightTheRight89]

67. Because...

It was presuming that Christians are anti-homosexual and then proceeded to tag the two together.

It was getting a cheap laugh at the expense of Christians, something that would not be acceptable the other way around.

It was playing on stereotypes within the Catholic Church and other Christian sects that have to do with closet homosexuality.

[Maven]

69. LOL.

First of all your first statement is bullshit because the joke had nothing to do with bigotry, it had to do with an association between your beliefs and homosexuality, which you just couldn't stand.

Your last statement is slightly more honest, yet I am floored that you can even sit there and deny that there aren't repressed homosexuals throughout the Catholic Church and in the pulpit of other Christian sects. If you don't like the "stereotype" then work within your church to foster acceptance of out gay men and lesbians.

[FightTheRight89]

72. TO THOSE OFFENDED:

I guess I shouldn't talk about that of which I do not have firsthand experience. Sorry for being presumptive, I now see the error of my assumption that homosexuality is a subconscious choice. I guess I really don't know, and I can see how many of you would be offended. That's the only point of contention between all of you and me. I hope that we can move forward with some sort of dialogue that's constructive. I apologize for my part in my erroneous assumption and how it caused this dispute.

[queerart]

73. Thanks.......

I send along a Hug to you..... even though you might not want it.......


:pals:

[queerart]

74. SHIT.......

I answered the wrong post (but both were the same).....


Oh Well........

[Ian David]

75. Then by the distributive property, it would still ultimately be caused by proximity to christians.nt

[FightTheRight89]

39. Most Christians do condemn the bigotry.

And thanks for telling us when we can complain and when we can't. I don't see gay people being eaten by lions too often either.

[Malikshah]

41. Nope-- just denied basic human rights on a daily basis. And we're the lucky ones.

We've not yet been shot, beaten, left to die, maimed beyond recognition.

There are levels of persecution in the world.

Currently, Christians in the United States are not even close to the radar screen.

Stand in line.

[FightTheRight89]

44. I agree.

Christians in the United States are not persecuted too much. And I agree, those acts are horrible. Hopefully those things will start to get better. You know one way to stop those things from happening? Stop accusing people like me of not being on your side.

And what do you mean, 'stand in line'?

[Malikshah]

46. Oh, I get it now. Unless I am nice to those who are part of a larger group that condemns me--even

though they themselves might not, then I'm simply compounding the problem.

Nope. Doesn't work for me. It's not my decision to make for others. It is on their conscience if they wish to allow their faith system to be used to condemn others, not mine. It is their responsibility to deal with that. Until there is a sea change in what is being stated from the pulpits in the US, accusations will continue. Too many people have allowed themselves to be suckered into the idea that their faith is the cause for their bigotry. They hide behind their scriptures, asking for patience...asking for understanding.

My question to all peoples of faith-- is your faith so weak that the GLBT existence can threaten it?

If so, Yahweh, God, Allah, Buddha, etc. will be sorely disappointed.

"Stand in line" refers to the attempt to equate the perceived Christian persecution discussion to the realized persecution of the GLBT members of US society as seen in the following line.

"I don't see gay people being eaten by lions too often either."

[FightTheRight89]

49. Sorry there bro,

I guess it's completely my fault that a couple nutjobs in my religion think it's OK to be bigoted. GLBT is fine by me, not gonna destroy my faith. And I don't see gay people being eaten by lions too often.

[Malikshah]

50. Check out post # 30. It might lend some perspective.

It is about being part of the solution and not the problem.

It is also about dealing with the ramifications of being part of a group who condemns another.

It is about seeing all of humanity as worthwhile and knowing that although you may not see the blood, the broken bones, and the shattered lives, they still exist--in God's name.

No apologies are requested or required. :)

[FightTheRight89]

57. I agree with everything you said.

I decry those in my religion who are bigots. I try to be part of the solution (which is why I am part of a group that promotes sexual equality, DU). People need to chill out on both sides of this issue.

[Ian David]

15. Yes, we're all too stupid to see the difference between Fred Phelps and Jim Wallis. n/t

[Mabus]

47. I'm not a Christian

and I don't like when I go shopping in December and people automatically assume I'm out buying Christmas gifts. But I get lumped together with everyone else just because that's the way the dominant society thinks.

If you think you've got it bad, try practicing a non-mainstream religion in this country. Hell, my religion was outlawed until the passage of the American Indian Religious Freedom Act of 1979. That's right 1979! Do you have any idea what it is like growing up and hearing the garbage about how America is a free country and how people came here for religious freedom when I grew up not being able to practice my own religion because it was banned by federal and state governments until 29 years ago? I was 18 years old when I was finally given the right to practice some, not all, of my religion. Don't talk to me about religious oppression. Hell, even now there are certain aspects of my religion - one that was handed down for generation upon generation in this land - that are still illegal.

How do you think I feel when I try to practice a religion that was practiced long before all the Europeans came over to escape their religious persecutions and am told that I cannot? I get angry as an American Indian.

How do you think it feels to try to love someone and live your life the way that feels natural but someone says that you can't because according to their interpretation of their religious doctrine it isn't allowed? That's how the GBLT communities feel.

fwiw, we American Indians know that not all people look down on us. We know that not all people condemn us for our religious beliefs. In the same way, people who are born gay know that not all people look down on them. They know that not all people condemn them for living their lives and pursuing what their biology tells them is natural and normal.

If you took offense at the video and only see it as a slam against Christians than I believe you have some problems that aren't going to be solved overnight. Get over yourself. If you were honest, you'd say, "by gosh, you know that video is spot on." It highlights the fact that people are born the way they are and it is stupid for some - not all - Christians to condemn a person's sexuality. Even worse, there are some Christians who believe they can pray to change their sexuality. Guess what? It ain't gonna happen. Why? Because we are born the way we are. We don't choose our sexuality, it is chosen for us. We don't choose our skin color, it is chosen for us.

I'm lucky. I can choose to change my religious beliefs. But I choose not to. People who are born gay cannot choose to be straight. Being gay is not a choice. It is biologically determined. I'm straight. I cannot choose to be gay. I cannot change my biological programming.

What I can do is understand that everyone is born differently and celebrate those differences. Some people are born with brown hair, some people are born with blue eyes and some people are born gay. I either like them or I don't but I sure as hell don't pick and choose my friends based on if they were born gay, straight or transgendered. I don't pick and choose my friends based on where they were born, if they go to church or they go to a Synagogue. I do however pick battles with people who want to condemn people for being themselves.

I also don't automatically assume that just because someone is a Christian that all Christians are the same. I don't assume that all white people are the same. I don't assume that all black people are the same. To take up the mantle that Christians are always persecuted says something more about the person making that assertions than anything anyone else has said. Get over your martyrdom, it doesn't suit you and it doesn't add substance to any discussion.

[Mabus]

5. See ya

Wouldn't want to be ya. Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[hulklogan]

6. Your support and understanding was only there in name, wasn't it?

Actually, I don't care whether you support me or understand me, I just want you to leave me alone and make sure I have the same rights as you.

Thanks!

[acmavm]

10. Support you and put up with your name calling? You stroke with a pretty

broad brush but expect to get away with it because you're 'special' and 'picked on' and insulted and denigrated? When you read and anti-gay article or hear anti gay rhetoric anywhere, you come here and want 'understanding' and support. And I can see that up to the point when you pull the same bullshit yourself. And that's when I say fuck it.

And I seriously don't care if you like it or not.

[hulklogan]

23. I didn't call you a name before, and I won't now.

Please leave us uppity whiny queers in peace. (edited after I took a deep breath)

Thanks :)

[Mabus]

79. There is nothing "special" about being gay and there's nothing "special" about being a Christian

But there is a difference. People are gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgendered because that is the way they are born but people can choose to be a Christian. And GBLT rights aren't about asking for special treatment. It is about asking to be treated like human beings and recognizing that the GBLT community deserve the same rights that every other human being deserves, expects and recieves.

GLBT people aren't special, they are normal human beings. Say that to yourself, "They are normal human beings." All they are asking is to be treated like human beings and to be given the same rights as other American citizens. All people should have the right to marry but we all don't have that right and that is pretty fucking sad. All people deserve the right to have jobs, go to school and not be insulted or picked on, everyone deserves the right to live where they want but not everyone gets that. GLBT people should have the right to go through their lives and expect to be treated on the basis of what they do and say and NOT be persecuted for being different than you.

The fact is that members of the GLBT communities are persecuted for their sexuality and/or gender identification. Something they have absolutely no control over. As far as I understand it, Christianity teaches people to turn the other cheek and to be understanding and compassionate to others, especially those that are persecuted. I guess I'm more concerned with human rights than I am religious rights. fwiw, I would bet that there are more minorities and GBLTs who have cursed the way we were born because of the obstacles it has created in our lives than there are Christian who have felt persecuted for their religious beliefs.

Give me one example of how you have been discriminated against because of your chosen religion. Give me one example of how people have made fun of you, personally, for your religious beliefs. Because I can give you tons of examples where people, normal human beings, have been discriminated against because of their gender and/or sexuality. I can give you hundreds of examples where people have been refused jobs, refused employment, refused benefits because they were members of the GLBT community.

All I can say to you is, take your persecution complex and wrap yourself in it somewhere else. When you are persecuted for being yourself and trying to live a normal life then you are welcome to come back and complain. Until you understand that there is a huge difference between choosing a religion and being born GBLT there's no real talking to you. If you don't understand what it feels like to be treated differently because of your biology then you don't understand the problems that others face.

[Ian David]

17. You have the same right as anyone to find your way to Christ however you choose.

I'm kidding!

[terrya]

9. You appear to be missing the humor gene, apparently.

That's satire, dear.

[acmavm]

11. No dear. It's just not funny.

[Ian David]

18. YouTube videos are funnier if you remove your head from your ass to watch them. n/t

[Ian David]

2. I already posted this here on Monday, you loser!

:P




http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=221x69159


Hee hee.


I'm just messin' with you.

[Mabus]

4. Damn

I just found it. Sorry for the duplicate.

[Coyote_Bandit]

7. There

are gay Christians ya know. Hell, there's even a gay ORU alumni association (not officially associated with the university of course). There are churches that specifically seek out gay congregants. And there are many progressive Christians that argue against the gay hatred rampant among the fundamentalists. Nice to know their faith is respected and their efforts on behalf of the GLBT community are appreciated.

[Ian David]

19. He thinks we're all too stupid or too anti-christian to know the difference.

Blinded by those gay-rays or something.

[Irishonly]

12. I Thought It Was Hysterical

and I am a Christian. I laughed so hard I cried. Wickedly funny.

[DarkTirade]

42. So the humor gene and the christian gene aren't mutually exclusive?

I keed, I keed. :hi:

[swimmernsecretsea]

13. It was satire, and it did make a point.

And I don't believe anyone here is trying to betray the support of Christians.

After what has occurred in the history and what some fundamentalists and politicians have done using Christianity as a bludgeon, I think it's apt. The original video wasn't harmful, mean-spirited, or in poor taste. If someone doesn't find it funny because they think it makes fun of them or a religion that has brought them peace, I would suggest some tolerance. Turning the other cheek is something I read somewhere as a coping mechanism.

[Ian David]

20. You have to support ALL christians, not just the progressive pro-gay ones...

or else you make Baby Jesus cry.

[FightTheRight89]

22. I hate political correctness...

But I was sort of offended by this video, being a Christian. Sure, it was funny, very funny, and very well done. Then again, I feel it only plays upon those stereotypes of Christians and implies that Christianity is a bad thing. Any other Christians have an opinion?

[Ian David]

76. If the jackboot doesn't fit, don't wear it.

Don't assume we don't see the difference between Fred Phelps and Jim Wallis, or between Martin Luther King, Jr. and James Dobson.

NOBODY here attempted to paint all Christians with the same broad brush.

Those who act as if it were so and get all offended merely confirm anti-christian bias by behaving like uptight prudish over-sensitive puritanical bores.

[hulklogan]

24. Maybe now the christians, both the nice ones and the evil ones, will have a chance to experience

some of the feelings GLBT Americans "enjoy" when we see stories like this on the news about us.

I don't think this video is anti-christian in any way. I guess there aren't any sermons about satire.

[Mabus]

30. I agree

I'm a heterosexual, American Indian woman who has been stereotyped by my skin color. I was born Indian. I will die Indian. Some people are born gay and they will die gay. My mother was forced to go to government boarding schools where she was beaten for speaking Arapaho. She was told over and over again that in order to be successful in life she had to deny who she was. She didn't. She was proud of her heritage, she was proud of who she was and she was successful in spite of everything she was told and heard.

The GLBT community has been told the same things my mother was. They've been told to deny who they are. They've been told to sit back and their time will eventually come. They've been told to stifle themselves and then expect that change will happen magically overnight. Well, it won't come until other people recognize that people are people and that we need to embrace everyone for being themselves. Change comes when people understand that everyone is born the way they are. It just pisses the hell out of me whenever I see some sects of Christians say that homosexuality is a disease and can be cured. Being gay, being a lesbian, being a bisexual or being a transexual is not a disease. It is being yourself. If you are born gay, then that is who you are. It doesn't make you special, it doesn't mean there is something wrong with you, it means you are you.

What rankles me is that there are many Christians who profess to love God and all of God's creations but they don't like gays and think they should change. They turn their back on those that need them the most.

I don't think the video is anti-Christian either. I see it as satire. And I think it is pretty fucking funny.

[Ian David]

78. I agree. And I am tired of the false outrage and persecution complex of SOME christians. n/t

[Ian David]

77. Didn't Jesus say, "Blessed are the satarists, for they will draw you with funny noses." ?? n/t