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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:22 AM
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Gay City News endorses Obama
http://gaycitynews.com/site/index.cfm?newsid=19249408&BRD=2729&PAG=461&dept_id=568864&rfi=8


Gay City News
New York City
Thursday, January 31, 2008

ENDORSEMENT

What We Can Do For Our Country

By: GAY CITY NEWS

In a presidential inaugural address that inspired a teenager from Hope,
Arkansas named Bill Clinton, John F. Kennedy famously urged Americans to focus not on
what the country could do for them, but on what contributions they could make
to the nation.

Mind you, we in the LGBT community are not yet nearly at the point where this
nation has made good on the contributions it owes to our lives, our families,
our well-being, even our equal citizenship.

Faced with the choice of two progressive Democrats who have spoken at length
and with conviction about the challenges facing our lives, we still don't have
the luxury of picking a candidate who will advocate for our right to marry. We
must yet take it on faith that the next president will have the fortitude to
insist that Congress - including too many stragglers within the Democratic Party -
open up the nation's military to out gay and lesbian patriots.

It is far from certain that the next time the Democratic Congress takes up an
employment nondiscrimination measure it will include transgendered Americans as
well as gay men and lesbians among those protected.

But after seven years of George W. Bush, and compared against the prospect of
either John McCain or Mitt Romney, Hillary Rodham Clinton and Barack Obama truly
offer hope to LGBT Americans that help is on the way.

Given that the two Democratic contenders share a similar, generally friendly
and supportive posture toward LGBT Americans, we ought to think about the message
our choice sends about a fundamental question - what our politics should be
all about. We are finding our place here and there at the table, but we have also
spent much of our life on the outside. The nation needs to hear our views on
how American politics can accommodate new voices in the mix.

Judged by that measure and taking full stock of how the Democratic nomination
contest has unfolded, we believe the choice is clear.

Gay City New endorses Barack Obama.

The Illinois senator has spoken of a politics of hope and change, not
surprisingly given a life that has included a father from Kenya and a mother from
Kansas, a term as president of the Harvard Law Review and a job as a community
organizer on the streets of Chicago.

Obama is a relative newcomer to the national scene, and it is not unfair to ask
that he explain as clearly as possible how his skills, experience, and vision
qualify him for the toughest job on earth. He deserves kudos for his courage in
standing up against the rush to war in Iraq at a time when conventional
political wisdom counseled a would-be national figure to do otherwise. He will serve
the nation well if he can articulate a comprehensive approach not only toward
the mess in Iraq but also the broader and more explosive question of America's
standing in the entire Islamic world.

In his recent comments about what Ronald Reagan offered to Americans hungry for
optimism and new ideas, Obama ought to have made more clear his understanding
that at critical moments the hope for unity cannot substitute for hard choices.
This newspaper was probably tougher on Obama than anyone else was for his
ill-considered decision to call on Donnie McClurkin - a so-called "ex-gay" gospel
singer vitriolic in his attacks on the LGBT community - to reach out to
churchgoing African-American communities in South Carolina. We are counting on him to
make wiser choices in future efforts to "build bridges" - and on that score
applaud the loving words about his "gay brothers and sisters" Obama enunciated from
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s Atlanta pulpit last week.

The McClurkin episode, unfortunate as it was, pales in comparison to the
divisiveness that Senator Clinton has allowed her campaign to devolve into. Her
comparison between the roles played by Dr. King and President Lyndon Johnson in
advancing civil rights can be chalked up to inartfulness. The comments coming from
her surrogates are far more disturbing, forming a pattern that sadly can no
longer be ignored.

Three Clintonites - the husband of former New Hampshire Governor Jeanne
Shaheen, Black Entertainment Television founder Robert Johnson, and, most damningly,
key strategist Mark Penn - all injected Obama's acknowledged youthful cocaine
use into the debate. New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo inexplicably used the
phrase "shuck and jive" in describing what a presidential candidate might try
to pull with the media, and then had his operatives bombard the press with
official umbrage that his words might be construed as targeting the
African-American senator.

Nobody, however, has been more egregious than Bill Clinton. In his ardent
championing of his wife, the former president has dissed Obama as "a kid" and this
past Saturday was quick to mention Jesse Jackson's 1984 and 1988 South Carolina
primary wins to contextualize Obama's commanding victory.

Notwithstanding the role of BET's Johnson and the ardent support for the New
York senator from towering African-American members of Congress such as Charlie
Rangel and Maxine Waters, the Clinton campaign's intent is clear - Barack Obama,
after his strong showing with white voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, must be
marginalized as the "black candidate," or Hillary runs the risk of losing.

That is unacceptable, and the LGBT community should lend its voice to a growing
progressive chorus in turning its back on this kind of politics. For us,
winning in the ghetto is no longer good enough - not for blacks, not for gays, not
for anyone.

There is a great deal we admire about Hillary Clinton, and our conclusion about
the direction of her campaign is arrived at with a heavy heart. Should she
prevail in the nomination fight, we have hope that the better angels of her nature
will come to the fore in the fall campaign.

But at this moment we put our faith in the hope that remains undimmed. We urge
a vote for Barack Obama.
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Ian_rd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:28 AM
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1. But I thought he hated gays? Another talking point goes the way of the kitchen sink I guess.
Couldn't resist.

Good news for the campaign, and good news for the LGBT community.
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:51 PM
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5. I know plenty of gay guys who can't see that he gets that "ooky" feeling around gay people
Why would a newspaper's editorial staff be different.

Then again, could be the "rally behind the nominee" attitude since on some issues at least he's better than McCain.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:29 AM
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2. Thank you for posting this
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 09:30 AM by merh
I so like how the article was ended.
There is a great deal we admire about Hillary Clinton, and our conclusion about the direction of her campaign is arrived at with a heavy heart. Should she prevail in the nomination fight, we have hope that the better angels of her nature will come to the fore in the fall campaign.

But at this moment we put our faith in the hope that remains undimmed. We urge a vote for Barack Obama.


I wish the better angels of her nature would come to the fore now, the energies of her campaign are so negative.

Would you please post this in the Primary forum or would you mind if I did?
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:43 AM
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4. Posted as requested.
Thanks for your message.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:40 AM
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3. This is one of Hillary's biggest problems
The comments coming from her surrogates are far more disturbing, forming a pattern that sadly can no longer be ignored.

One of Hillary's biggest drawbacks are her supporters. If she fails, they will bear a large part of the blame.
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Creideiki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:01 PM
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6. Really. You didn't just say that.
Then again, if Obama were to, I don't know, start talking about gay people like we're human beings, then maybe his supporters could be greeted with eye-rolling.
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hulklogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:35 PM
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7. Why should I care who the Gay City News endorsed in January?
No number of GLBT endorsements could make me support either Saint Barack or Mother Hillary.
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rcsl1998 Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 06:43 PM
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8. ...And I Should Care About This Editorial Because???
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:26 PM
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10. In answer to your rhetorical question
You shouldn't. Just a gay rag trying to justify supporting a man who has clearly stated that he opposes marriage equality for gays. With friends like this...

To the OP, let me know when Obama comes out in support true equality and civil rights. Until then if I want to read pathetic justifications for why we should be happy with people who want us to accept second class citizenship I'll wander over and see what the LCRs have up.
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 10:22 PM
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9. I'm for Obama but there is much silliness contained herein.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 10:25 PM by PaulHo
>>>The McClurkin episode, unfortunate as it was, pales in comparison to the
divisiveness that Senator Clinton has allowed her campaign to devolve into. Her
comparison between the roles played by Dr. King and President Lyndon Johnson in
advancing civil rights can be chalked up to inartfulness.>>>>

What she said was both artul and correct. She was making the point that it was necessary to have someone sympathetic in high political office to make desired change become actual change. Can this be disputed?



>>>>The comments coming from
her surrogates are far more disturbing, forming a pattern that sadly can no
longer be ignored.
Three Clintonites - the husband of former New Hampshire Governor Jeanne
Shaheen, Black Entertainment Television founder Robert Johnson, and, most damningly,
key strategist Mark Penn - all injected Obama's acknowledged youthful cocaine
use into the debate. New York Attorney General Andrew Cuomo inexplicably used the
phrase "shuck and jive" in describing what a presidential candidate might try
to pull with the media, and then had his operatives bombard the press with
official umbrage that his words might be construed as targeting the
African-American senator. >>>>>>>

I'll pass on the cocaine thing since I don't know enough ( OK, I agree: Penn is a certified disgusto who seems more than capable of dragging this out; OTOH, isn't it better to have this vetted in primary season than to have it drag down the ticket and the party by having it the subject of media obsession in the last week of October?)

To say Andrew Cuomo *intentionally* injected Obama's race into the New York Primary is to admit that one knows little if anything about NY politics. Injecting race into politics is tantamount to political suicide for a liberal democrat... even a moderately liberal democrat like Cuomo. It's not rocket science: if a DEM pol wants to compete for his party's nomination for NY gov and/or NY US SEN ( and it's a given that Cuomo does) he or she does not look for opportunities to insult AAs. True , Andrew seems not as, shall we say 'gifted' as his old man... and maybe his political instincts are not as sharp. But engaing in a 'vast Hillary conspiracy' to drag Obama's African Americanism into the race, as is implied below? I don't think so.

It doesn't make sense and ... as Judge Judy barks... "If it doesn't make sense then it isn't true!!!" ( No, I can't stand her either but she's right about that.)




>>>Nobody, however, has been more egregious than Bill Clinton. In his ardent
championing of his wife, the former president has dissed Obama as "a kid" and this
past Saturday was quick to mention Jesse Jackson's 1984 and 1988 South Carolina
primary wins to contextualize Obama's commanding victory.>>>>

Not my number one guy either; but is this fair? Is it even *cogent*? She was going to lose to Obama by a landslide no matter what. When you lose an election you try to put the best spin on it. ( Doesn't everyone do this?) Was he not factually correct? Should we pretend that Obama's race does not contribute to his ENORMOUS appeal to AA primary voters?

Let's be honest before we start to pretend. This one was *completely* overblown... and there was more skullduggery involved in the overblowing of it than in BClinton's "inartful" observations.


>>>>Notwithstanding the role of BET's Johnson and the ardent support for the New
York senator from towering African-American members of Congress such as Charlie
Rangel and Maxine Waters, the Clinton campaign's intent is clear - Barack Obama,
after his strong showing with white voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, must be
marginalized as the "black candidate," or Hillary runs the risk of losing. >>>>

Possible... but not so "clear". Certainly not made any clearer by the examples provided.
Disclosure: This paper ( *essentially* this paper; they change names every few years)turned down a submission I made a few years ago. (I may still be a little pissed; note to self: consult therapist).

Not to worry. I'm glad they're for Obama. Sometimes people come to the right place for all the wrong reasons.


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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:05 AM
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11. I guess
The "close spiritual advisement" he takes from Meeks is okay, because that guy is just so awesome for GLBT rights. Just have a look at the IFI page on homosexuality. :puke:

Let's see, the "McClurkin episode" consisted of him placing a hate-monger in center stage and letting his hate spew to an even bigger audience. Why is this asshole the go-to guy for people stumping for black southern votes? There are SO many much less hateful people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A42982-2004Aug28.html
Donnie McClurkin, Ready to Sing Out Against Gay 'Curse'

By Richard Leiby
The Washington Post
Sunday, August 29, 2004; Page D03

• Gospel singer Donnie McClurkin, who has detailed his struggle with gay tendencies and vowed to battle "the curse of homosexuality," said yesterday he'll perform as scheduled at the Republican National Convention on Thursday, despite controversy over his view that sexuality can be changed by religious intervention.
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Tyo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 10:43 AM
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12. But, but...
don't you understand? None of that stuff matters because Obama's been endorsed by the Gay City News. That makes him our pal.:sarcasm:
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rcsl1998 Donating Member (501 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:04 PM
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13. By The Way, Where Is 'Gay City' ???
Is it near Gotham City? Metropolis?
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-09-08 05:46 PM
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14. It's In Oz, I Think. About 30 Miles from Emerald City.
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