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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 06:29 AM
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The Watchmen movement's strategy for combating the "disease" of homosexuality
Edited on Wed Jun-18-08 06:32 AM by seemslikeadream
off to work but wanted to post this before I left


Has this group been discussed here?


http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=1426

The executive director of the OCA at that time was Scott Lively, a longtime anti-gay activist who is now the chief international envoy for the Watchmen movement. Lively also is the former director of the California chapter of the anti-gay American Family Association and the founder of both Defend the Family Ministries and the Pro-Family Law Center, which claims to be the country's "only legal organization devoted exclusively to opposing the homosexual political agenda."


The international nature of the anti-gay movement was seen at the 2006 conference of the so-called Watchmen on the Walls in the alliance between American gay-bashers Kenneth Hutcherson, Scott Lively, and Latvian megachurch preacher Alexey Ledyaev.
The Watchmen movement's strategy for combating the "disease" of homosexuality calls for aggressive confrontation. "We church leaders need to stop being such, for lack of a better word, sissies when it comes to social and political issues," Lively argues in a widely-circulated tract called Masculine Christianity. "For every motherly, feminine ministry of the church such as a Crisis Pregnancy Center or ex-gay support group we need a battle-hardened, take-it-to-the-enemy masculine ministry like Operation Rescue."

Lively identifies "the enemy" as not only homosexuals, but also what he terms "homosexualists," a category that includes anyone, regardless of sexual orientation, who "actively promotes homosexuality as morally and socially equivalent to heterosexuality as a basis for social policy."

When he personally confronts the enemy, Lively practices what he preaches when it comes to "battle-hardened" tactics. He recently was ordered by a civil court judge to pay $20,000 to lesbian photojournalist Catherine Stauffer for dragging her by the hair through the halls of a Portland church in 1991.


The Pink Passport
Lively occasionally writes for Chalcedon Report, a journal published by the Chalcedon Foundation, the leading Christian Reconstructionist organization in the country. (Reconstructionists typically call for the imposition of Old Testament law, including such draconian punishments as stoning to death active homosexuals and children who curse their parents, on the United States.) But he's most famous as the co-author of The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party.







http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=809

These low lifes may not be the Klan, but they might as well be.

Watchmen on the Walls (the full name) expects as many as 700 people to attend the prayer gathering, including religious leaders and an anti-gay activist who claims the Holocaust was perpetrated by gays.

Watchmen on the Walls is planning four "regular services, like church services," said Sergy Trikhodko. He described himself as a contact person for the Lynnwood event, but said he could not speak about Watchmen on the Walls, its mission or history.

Among those expected to speak in Lynnwood is Scott Lively, a lawyer from California. He is a "radical anti-gay activist who has all sorts of beliefs about homosexuality and fascism," said Michelle Deutchman, western states counsel for the Anti-Defamation League.

The Everett, Washington Herlad says also listed as a speaker for the Lynnwood gathering is former Seattle Seahawk Ken Hutcherson. He's now a pastor at the Antioch Bible Church in Kirkland and a vocal opponent to gay marriage.

The Watchmen group is composed of some of the state's 200,000 Russian speaking immigrants, said Pastor Joe Fuiten of Bothell's Cedar Park Church. He plans to be a featured speaker at the Lynnwood event.

Fuiten, known statewide for rallying the religious right on moral issues, bristled at the Southern Poverty Law Center's characterization of the Watchmen as the hate mongers they are.

"That southern law group, they're a bunch of whackos," Fuiten said. "They're the hate group. That's a gay front, is what that is."

"Watchmen on the Walls is an extremist organization that makes the radical right look liberal," said Josh Friedes, advocacy director for Equal Rights Washington, a gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender rights group. He's concerned about violence, and wonders "What will Lynnwood do to make sure that GLBT citizens are welcome in the town and to make sure to the rest of the state that this conference isn't a Lynnwood value?"
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 07:17 AM
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1. Yes, they have been discussed here before
They have been active in the Seattle area. Arch-bigot Ken Hutcherson, based in Kirkland, Washington, sponsored WotW "events" last year.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 08:03 AM
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2. recommending deportation for some. nt
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closeupready Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:23 AM
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4. Absolutely.
100% support that idea.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 08:34 AM
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3. Yes, these are apostate freaks
These people, like McClurkin and Caldwell, by the way, are vicious bigots. I'm suprised that the Latvians are swallowing their real feelings to work with African Americans, I guess they intend to come out against them once they help put down the gays. The order is Gays, Jews, then blacks.
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momster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 12:33 PM
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9. And women
Lesbian, straight, black, white, young, old, you name it, these people want to put women down and keep them down. A Handmaid's Tale is their dream society.
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SCBeeland Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 12:20 PM
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5. "You were born of heterosexuals"
I can't help but wonder what the point of holding up a sign that says that is. As if gay people physically cannot produce a child. As if, after reading that sign, I'm supposed to think "she's right, I was born of heterosexuals, so I guess I'll just have to stop being gay" like its the same thing as deciding what shirt to wear.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 09:00 PM
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6. I think we should do their work for them and spread their message. Connect them to fundies.
Make fundies defend or answer for them. Put them all over the papers. See if we can bait some prominent fundies like Dobson to agree. Then we show how their research is absurd. We ought to ask John McCain: "Do you support evangelical Christian groups like Watchmen, who deny the holocaust by saying that gays were responsible for it? We should call the PTL club and ask if it's true that gays are all nazis and invented AIDS to kill heterosexuals." You know.. everyone loves holocaust deniers. There's a way to win hearts and minds.

These are the kind of things they do to us. We need to stop fighting them with logic and start fighting them with their own lunacy. Let's make them accountable.

We ought to ratchet this thing up and win.

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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-18-08 10:00 PM
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7. FUCK THEM! I AM SO TIRED OF THIS SHIT!
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Prophet 451 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-19-08 09:48 AM
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8. Scum
If there was ever a group of people who were crying out for a good, firm collective smack in the mouth.....
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