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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:09 PM
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Mormon Excommunicated For Sexy Male Calendar
(Salt Lake City, Utah) The creator of a calendar that featured shirtless Mormon missionaries was excommunicated Sunday after a disciplinary meeting with local church leaders in Las Vegas.

Chad Hardy said he bears no ill will toward the council of elders from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

"I felt like I spoke my truth," the 31-year-old entertainment entrepreneur said. "Bottom-line, they still felt the calendar is inappropriate and not the image that the church wants to have."

"Men on a Mission," which has sold nearly 10,000 copies at $14.99 each, included pictures of 12 returned missionaries wearing black slacks, but not their trademark white shirts, in modest poses. The men also were photographed in traditional missionary garb and share their religious beliefs in biographical sketches.

http://www.365gay.com/Newscon08/07/071408cal.htm
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:14 PM
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1. Since the Mormon church doesn't publicly say why the excommunicate people
there's really no way of knowing for sure if that was the reason, or if there's some other issue this guy doesn't want to talk about.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 12:26 PM
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2. oh, so they damned his soul to eternal hell. Nice bunch of
(rant and expletives deleted).

I can't imagine if Jesus H. himself appeared in that meeting that he would say, hey, this guy needs to go burn in hell forever for showing some man nipples.

With christian love like that who needs religion.
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Huskerchub Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 04:56 PM
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3. Excommunication is not damnation to hell...
even in the LDS church. This is taken from wikipedia...

Those who are excommunicated lose their church membership and the right to partake of the sacrament. Notices of excommunication may be made public--especially in cases of apostasy, where members could be misled--but the specific reasons for individual excommunications are typically kept confidential and are seldom made public.

Persons who have been excommunicated are usually allowed to attend church meetings, but cannot participate in the meetings: offer prayers for the congregation, give talks, etc., cannot enter LDS temples, or wear temple garments. Excommunicated members may be re-baptized after a waiting period and sincere repentance, as judged by a series of interviews with church leaders.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 05:35 PM
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5. Very missleading...
the only way go to hell in the LDS faith is to have a personal knowledge of Jesus (meaning you have seen him and communicated with him in the flesh), you must also be male and have the high priesthood and then when all that is covered you must denied Christ. Every other single person on the earth according the LDS doctrine will go to heaven. However LDS theology has heaven divided into 5 kingdoms - the top 3 being for faithful church members and the lower two are better places than here, however that is where the non LDS that do not accept their temple work thats been done for them after they die will go.

Its very very hard to go to hell according to LDS theology. In fact only a hand full of people qualify according to the church (Judas, Cain and a few others).
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:27 PM
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7. You're Shitting Me.
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 06:27 PM by Toasterlad
You mean to tell me that Mormon heaven has a VIP lounge?

My respect for Mormons just shot up tenfold.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:31 PM
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8. Yep it has a VIP lounge...
Edited on Mon Jul-14-08 06:32 PM by FreeState
http://www.mormon.org/mormonorg/eng/basic-beliefs/heavenly-father-s-plan-of-salvation/heaven-and-eternal-reward


"After you are judged, you will live in a state of glory. Because everyone’s works and righteous desires vary, heaven includes different kingdoms, or degrees of glory.

***Celestial kingdom— Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ reside in the celestial kingdom. If you live according to the gospel of Jesus Christ and are cleansed from sin by the Atonement, you will receive a place in this, the highest kingdom, where you will live in God’s presence and know complete joy.

Terrestrial kingdom— People who refuse to accept the gospel of Jesus Christ but who live honorable lives will receive a place in the terrestrial kingdom.

Telestial kingdom—Those who continue in their sins and do not repent until after they have died, will eventually receive a place in the telestial kingdom."


***http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degrees_of_glory#The_Celestial_Kingdom

"Degrees within the celestial kingdom
Smith taught that the celestial kingdom itself is subdivided into three "heavens or degrees". Only those individuals who are sealed in celestial marriage to a spouse in a temple while alive (or after death by proxy) will be permitted to enter into the highest degree of celestial kingdom. These individuals will eventually become "exalted" and will be permitted to live "the kind of life God lives"."
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Karl_Bonner_1982 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 05:10 PM
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4. Thankful to live in Oregon for this among other reasons
A couple years ago we had a fundraiser calendar for the Junction City Fire Department and I think even the schools, where fire fighters posed naked in the photos above each month section.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-14-08 06:24 PM
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6. Who Would Want to Belong to a Church That Has an Anti-Sexy Male Calendar Policy?
Hell, I'd overcome my religious revulsion and sign up for the first church that provides a 12 Apostles Swimsuit Calendar.
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seaj11 Donating Member (506 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-17-08 12:49 AM
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13. amen...
after all, God made them, right? ;-)
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moose65 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 06:45 AM
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9. If ya want to see the calendar
Click here:

http://mormonsexposed.com/

It's not "dirty"; it's quite tasteful, I think, and the guys are cute!

How is this related to GLBT, tho?
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 08:05 AM
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10. Ask the folks at 365Gay.com
It was posted there.

(Honestly, I don't have an answer other than that.)
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 09:02 AM
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11. Wow, who knew that Mormons all shaved their chests.
Edited on Tue Jul-15-08 09:04 AM by PelosiFan
I agree with you on the question about how this relates to GLBT. Just because they're cute guys? I don't see anything claiming that they're gay.
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moose65 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-15-08 04:26 PM
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12. Theory:
Maybe they think that just starin' at hot guys will turn one gay... hmmm. On another note, are there no hairy Mormons???
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