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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 06:50 AM
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Homophobe Recruitment
I've never seen gay people on the street saying "Be like us!", "Change your ways, straight people!", "Repent Now!"

The calls of "You're sick!", "You need help!", "Change your ways!", "Repent Now!", etc. only come from one group of people.

There aren't any groups that are created for the sole purpose of trying to find a way to turn straight people gay.

But, there are many groups that are created for the sole purpose of trying to find a way to turn gay people straight.

Gay people don't use discredited crackpots and false statistics to make straight people look like a bunch of deviants.

But, there are several individuals and groups that use discredited crackpots and false statistics to make gay people look like a bunch of deviants.

So, who's doing the real recruiting?
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 06:59 AM
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1. An elegant refutation
of the "Gay Agenda" nonsense.


:applause:

K&R.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 07:00 AM
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2. Um...I have seen a couple of gay dudes I've know throw around the "breeder" word a few times.
Edited on Thu Oct-09-08 07:03 AM by YOY
Not quite the same thing but hardly nice to the straight people who are or could be smart enough to consider them equals. It also was done in a condescending manner of superiority. Not cute.

and yes, there is no "gay agenda"....unless the gay agenda is being accepted as equals.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 07:57 AM
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3. Ummm, your point?
The OP did not say 'all gay folk treat heterosexuals with constant kindness.' So wow! You heard a straight person get called a name by a gay person? Wow! Stunning! Alert the media! Humans are human! Stop the press!
But the OP made a fine point about double standards, note how you applied that double standard yourself...I mean, I've heard straight folks say GLBT people should have no rights at all and be put in prison. These are dudes like you! Same sexuality. Shall I assume you speak for them, should I be bringing the words of hetero Hannity to you and laying them at your feet 'cause you both are straight? Or is the standard you use here in fact not the standard you wish to be applied in reverse? A double standard.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:17 AM
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5. Case in point
How may gay kids use "straight" to mean "awful," "bad," "undesirable" or "worthless"?
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:24 AM
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7. Exactly!
You never hear "that's so straight" used as an insult.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:31 PM
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16. You will now.
I'm SO going to start using that!

:evilgrin:
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:39 PM
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17. my favorite is turning the "that's what she said" jokes around into
"that's what he said"

get's the straight guys' attention everytime


:evilgrin:
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 09:40 AM
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9. No kidding.
Great point.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:33 AM
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12. Sorry TechBear but that's kids being ultra-obnoxious and repeating nasty trend
I like the way Wanda Sykes handles it.

The point is that sometimes people can be nasty, condescending, and rude to others that are different from them. Perhaps out of the cause of a personal anger.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:31 AM
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11. My point that people will find a way to look down on others not like them
And true Gays, TGs, and Lesbians have gotten the short end of the stick for years, that doesn't make it all right to be hateful to straight people.

Some of us have been pulling for you for years.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 06:14 PM
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19. How do you see the poster as being hateful to straight people?
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 06:32 PM
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21. OhI don't see that at all! Not at all what I was insinuating!
I was just making the point that we have to change things with understanding and forgiveness and not bitterness and self rightousness. Those are tools of the right.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 06:37 PM
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22. sorry for that
:hi:
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 06:38 PM
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23. Nothin' but love!
:7
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-11-08 01:51 AM
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25. Straight sex frequently results in breeding.
At least, I'm fairly sure that's where I got those stretch marks from.

It's not the nicest word in the world, but it's not exactly offensive either. Just a bit indelicate.
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DarkTirade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:12 AM
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4. I'm pretty sure there's a direct corellation between the volume one preaches at and the amount of
hypocrisy one has in their life.
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:19 AM
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6. Great post....
but, for the record, there are a certain amount of gay men that I know who are infatuated with the idea of giving straight men their first taste of gay sex. I guess their point is that if someone is curious, they want to be the ones to take their "virginity." Personally, I don't get it, but I suppose we all have our hot buttons.

But clearly, your post is 99.9999% valid, and I'll surely remember it the next time I get into a debate with someone and they throw in the recruitment card!

:hi:
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Duncan Grant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:18 PM
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14. That's probably similar to how straight men eroticize lesbians.
Don't you think?
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SacredCow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:29 PM
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15. Yeah, it's probably a similar dynamic....
And surely the "girl on girl" pornography is aimed at straight men- not lesbians.
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racaulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 08:25 AM
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8. Excellent post!!!
:thumbsup:

K&R
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 10:08 AM
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10. recommend
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 11:33 AM
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13. Homophobe recruitment: The Mormons.
The Mormon Church (er, uh, MORON Church) has put out a call to all their members to volunteer for the coalition to pass Prop 8.

Effing nazis. As if they haven't effed up Utah enough, now they are invading California to remake it in the hateful mold of Utah.

Mormons recruit out-of-state for gay marriage ban


(10-08) 18:26 PDT Salt Lake City, CA (AP) --
Mormons living outside California have been asked to volunteer for a
telephone campaign to help pass a ballot initiative banning same-sex
marriage in the state.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is part of a
coalition of
conservative groups backing Proposition 8, which would amend
California's
constitution to limit marriage to a man and a woman.
Church elder L. Whitney Clayton said members may be asked to call
friends
and family at home in California before the Nov. 4 election to encourage
support for the measure. The out-of-state phone campaign would be on an
"if-needed" basis.

More: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2008/10/08/state/n144806D74.DTL
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 12:45 PM
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18. Fucking Mormons. If there was ever a case for a religion to lose their IRS tax-exempt status,
it is the church of jesus christ of latter day saints. They have meddled in national and state political affairs for YEARS. And before someone decides to go all Holy Joe on my ass, I was raised Mormon, was quite devout and separated from the church because of their Utah Inquisition policies against Gays and Lesbians. While there are many good men and women that count themselves Mormon, the church itself is rotten and fetid, having grown bloated by the money it worships.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-10-08 08:10 AM
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24. Religions do not and have never had tax-exempt status. That would be unconstitutional
Edited on Fri Oct-10-08 08:11 AM by TechBear_Seattle
Religious organizations, on the other hand, can ask to be put in the same non-profit category as animal rescue centers, pee-wee sports or the local public library:

Corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, organized and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, testing for public safety, literary, or educational purposes, or to foster national or international amateur sports competition (but only if no part of its activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or equipment), or for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of the net earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is carrying on propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation (except as otherwise provided in subsection (h)), and which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office.

26USC501(c)(3)


I really wish people would learn something about how it works. :hi: But yes, the LDS (among many others) should lose its 501(c)(3) classification for all the meddling it does in elections and politics.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-09-08 06:23 PM
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20. They can't recruit, so they have to reproduce. n/t
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