Duncan Grant
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:33 PM
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Prop 8: Exit poll by gender, race, age, income and education. |
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http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/polls/#CAI01p1I'd prefer to wait for the breakdown by actual votes cast but for the sake of discussion, this poll will do for now.
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:34 PM
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1. Proof that with time we can change this! |
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One sweet little hope in that pile of shit.
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:41 PM
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3. This is definitely true. |
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When this 50-year-old PFLAGer (www.pflag.org) was at the No-On-8 rallies, there were literally HUNDREDS of young people there with me. They will be voting very soon. We can change things for the better! We're fighting on!
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Duncan Grant
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:43 PM
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5. I'm thinking scorched earth. Take a look at how entrenched the bigotry is across all categories. |
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I'm not feeling particular patient or generous.
I think this travesty deserves an ongoing resistance movement that complicates the daily lives of heterosexuals everywhere. It is time.
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YOY
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:52 PM
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8. I'm afraid there are only two just routes to take that would fix it justly. |
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Edited on Wed Nov-05-08 01:54 PM by YOY
One. To take this to the highest court possible.
Two. To heed that the younger generations are more accepting and that this will change. This will change in far sooner than 20 years. Justice would dictate that it needs to change tomorrow but we must wait if this has to be a "decision of the people." I don't believe that it is that though so perhaps the legal route needs to be the path.
And please don't hate on us heterosexuals. Some of us have been pushing for you for years. My straight white accepting married-with-one-child irreligious ass doesn't need to be lumped in with Sarah Palin and the fundie lot.
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Duncan Grant
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:03 PM
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10. As a heterosexual ally, I'm going to ask you to suffer the annoyances of gay direct action. |
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I'm sorry about that. I am forever grateful for your support but LGBT people have now been cornered. It's time to bring on a serious fight.
Also, it's not your heterosexual self that I'm hatin' on. Please don't take it personally.
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:17 PM
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15. OH by all means do so! BUT STOP CALLING IT AN ANNOYANCE!!! |
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It's a pleasure to help in any way shape or form!
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:20 PM
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16. I think it's time to play their game against them. |
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You want to protect the sanctity of marriage? Fine.
Let's outlaw divorce. We're only trying to 'protect marriage' right?
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:39 PM
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by name, adress, and phone number of everyone who voted Yes.
I don't know what I would do with it right now...
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:43 PM
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4. Latinos overwhelmingly Yes, but young latinos overwhelmingly NO. |
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Young voters overwhelmingly NO. First-time voters overwhelmingly NO.
This won't stand for too long.
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:44 PM
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6. Hmm? No question on "Delusional religious beliefs that have me vote |
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to destroy the rights of my fellow citizens?" I'm surprised!
Why no question on "What's more important to you? Your religious beliefs or the tenets of the Constitution?"
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:49 PM
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7. didn't you hear? bashing religion is bigotry. they were born with |
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those ignorant religious views and can't help it so it is bigotry to criticize them. :sarcasm:
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Wed Nov-05-08 01:55 PM
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9. Religious "views" are opinions, not facts. No one is born with a religious view. |
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Religious views are learned...indoctrinated. One can later choose a different religious view, and many do.
People are born male/female, black/white, gay/straight.
I appreciate your sarcasm, though. It gave me a chance to vent some more!
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:16 PM
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11. I'm so angry right now I can't even express myself |
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I'm desperately looking for a positive outlet for my anger because all I want to do right now is nuke the Mormon and Catholic churches.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:36 PM
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12. A large, angry march on ST mary's Cathedral...:< for a start |
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I'm looking for a fight. I aam old and sick I wish I was brave enough to immolate myself in a mormon temple, but it would kill Hubby, who is older ans sicker.
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Wed Nov-05-08 02:55 PM
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We want and need you here with us.
:hug:
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:12 PM
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14. I swear I will deck the next moron (Mormon) who knocks |
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:23 PM
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17. 36% of the California Democrats voted against us. |
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:38 PM
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18. I am proud of my generation, they delivered last night and they will see this through |
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Come on Millennials! Lets show them how it's done.
--19yo, Hispanic gay male.
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Wed Nov-05-08 03:44 PM
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19. So, white women, and especially young white women voted against. Interesting #s. |
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