FreeState
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Mon Nov-17-08 04:32 PM
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When Obama repeals DOMA what does that mean for us? |
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Repealing it makes it no longer law - but there is no law recognizing marriage equality either - so what happens when its repealed? Do we need to push through a marriage equality bill there or use the courts?
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Mon Nov-17-08 04:39 PM
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1. my view is that no extra laws need be passed to give equal rights to every citizen. |
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any abridgement of rights is a violation of the constitution, period.
of course, that's IMHO.
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Mon Nov-17-08 04:40 PM
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2. I agree. We simply need a Supreme Court decision on it. |
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Mon Nov-17-08 04:42 PM
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5. it should be a no-brainer. |
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If they're consenting adults, there is no VALID reason to deny any rights whatsoever.
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Mon Nov-17-08 05:40 PM
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8. Yeah, but not with THIS Supreme Court. |
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I don't want Scalia et al anywhere near this issue.
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Mon Nov-17-08 04:41 PM
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3. I'm afraid it's probably "If," not "When" |
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Mon Nov-17-08 05:32 PM
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7. Yeah I share your concern there... but Im still hopeful... we will see... n/t |
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Mon Nov-17-08 06:06 PM
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10. I agree. We can't believe this is absolutely going to happen. |
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I don't want to get my heart broken by a Democratic President again. If you don't expect it, you won't get disappointed.
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Mon Nov-17-08 07:32 PM
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Mon Nov-17-08 04:42 PM
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4. First off, he cannot repeal DOMA unilaterally; that would require an Act of Congress |
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Second, given his oft-stated personal position on marriage, I am not holding my breath for any change with or without Congress' action.
But putting my well-deserved pessimism aside, a repeal of DOMA would do nothing to change the status quo. Without legislation recognizing same-sex marriage, the repeal or non-repeal of the "Defense" of Marriage Act makes no difference.
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Mon Nov-17-08 05:28 PM
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6. I have no faith that Obama will do anything for Gay Rights |
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Mon Nov-17-08 10:28 PM
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13. Sadly, I agree. At most he'll restore Clinton's executive orders, but I expect nothing big. |
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Mon Nov-17-08 05:46 PM
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9. The repeal of DOMA will mean that lawsuits based on FF&C can be brought |
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and potentially prevail, i.e., a same-sex couple married in MA or CT could sue in another state to have their marriage recognized there under FF&C.
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Mon Nov-17-08 10:54 PM
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14. Presidents can't repeal laws thankfully. |
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Can you imagine the laws that Bush would have "repealed" if he had the power. Congress writes the laws. They have to change DOMA.
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