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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 02:57 AM
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“How’s your longtime companion, Jill?” “She’s my wife!” “Yeah, well, my beliefs don’t recognize marr
A Marriage Manifesto... Of Sorts
http://www.religiondispatches.org/blog/sexandgender/755/

I no longer recognize marriage. It’s a new thing I’m trying.

Turns out it’s fun.

Yesterday I called a woman’s spouse her boyfriend.

She says, correcting me, “He’s my husband,”
“Oh,” I say, “I no longer recognize marriage.”

The impact is obvious. I tried it on a man who has been in a relationship for years,

“How’s your longtime companion, Jill?”
“She’s my wife!”
“Yeah, well, my beliefs don’t recognize marriage.”

Fun. And instant, eyebrow-raising recognition. Suddenly the majority gets to feel what the minority feels. In a moment they feel what it’s like to have their relationship downgraded, and to have a much taken-for-granted right called into question because of another’s beliefs.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 03:02 AM
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1. i love it!
i'd use this but i don't refer to people as someone's husband, wife, girlfriend, etc.

i just call them by name. (a part of me has also never recognized marriage--or titles for that matter--at least not since i was a kid)
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:30 AM
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2. Turnabout is fair, and especially in this situation.
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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 07:55 AM
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3. I'm sorry, that's just wrong....
I can't wait to use it!!!!!

:rofl:
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Zuiderelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:03 AM
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4. I like that very much!
:thumbsup:

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cate94 Donating Member (573 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:23 AM
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5. Awesome!
I love this: "...my beliefs don't recognize marriage." and "instant, eyebrow-raising recognition."

Perfect.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:27 AM
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6. I like it! My, my, how huffy THEY get
when we say "companion" instead of spouse!
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FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 10:20 AM
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7. This is RIGHT up my alley.
I like this even better than my fave response to the question, "Why isn't domestic partnership good enough for you?" which is, "Would it be good enough for YOU?"

Totally adopting this beginning today.
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Midlodemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 12:49 PM
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8. That is awesome!!!!
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Ellen Forradalom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 08:44 PM
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22. My thought exactly. Beautifully done.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 01:06 PM
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9. Ooooooooooh, wait until I encounter the asshole neighbors who had the YES on 8 sign.
Great idea ~~ I decided to not recognize their marriage because they are homophobic bigots. OMG....bigots begetting bigots! That needs to be prohibited!

:hi:
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KitchenWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 01:08 PM
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10. My life partner and I have stopped referring to each other as husband and wife.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 01:39 PM
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11. Excellent! Thank you for the idea.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:02 PM
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12. Great
My poor family
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 04:44 PM
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13. Part of me feels bad for doing it and part of me feels
absolutely delicious. Shoe, meet other foot.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 05:02 PM
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14. I love it
and plan on using it.

After all, it's a moral thing, and my religion commands I do it, so then it's acceptable right?
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 06:46 PM
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15. Ha! And it would point out how often that comes up.
Interesting concept. I work around so many RWers who would never "get it" tho . . .
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:35 PM
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18. You might be surprised, donco6. It might not register at the moment you say it, but I'll
bet that most of them will think about it and maybe even mention it to one of their friends. It's a "teachable moment" kind of a thing.

I'm definitely going to use it on some of my anti-gay marriage friends.

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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:22 PM
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16. Very good. I shall use it without mercy.
I love to see the startled, deer in the headlights look on members of the herd.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 09:49 PM
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17. love it.
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FuzzyDicePHL Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-20-08 11:50 PM
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19. Told a friend about this
and she decided she's going to start telling people she's the bastard child of Keith & Kathy (her parents). :D
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 08:48 AM
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20. That would be a great debate question.
"President Obama, how's your longterm companion? Michelle."

"Michelle is my wife."

"Oh, my beliefs don't recognize marriage."

"Michelle is fine."

"Good. You make a great couple. Here's my question. Explain how the institution of marriage is not an establishment of religion."
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:01 AM
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21. It has been explained ad nauseam how civil marriage is not an establishment of religion
What are the enumerated legal benefits of being baptized? What are the tax advantages of being bar/bat mitzvahed? What laws regulate who may and may not be ordained? What perqs does the government recognize as given by virtue of being confirmed with the laying-on of hands by a bishop in the Apostolic Succession?

None, none, none, and none.

The fact that there are enumerated legal benefits to being married, that there are tax advantages to being married, that there are laws regulating who may and may not be married and that there are many perqs recognized by the government by virtue of being married should prove that legal marriage is NOT a religious institution.
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