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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:27 AM
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Rapper: Faggot, I kill every one of them
Gay hate singer Bounty Killer is seen in this video (video at link) boasting of wanting to murder gay and lesbian people.

Leading human rights activist Peter Tatchell has said that the Metropolitan police would cancel a concert in London by a reggae artist notorious for his homophobic lyrics if there was a riot, but they ignore "polite, peaceful lobbying."

Mr Tatchell said that Bounty Killer has been granted a visa by the Home Office to perform in the UK, despite the fact that inciting murder is a serious criminal offense.

Video at link: http://www.pinknews.co.uk/news/articles/2005-9633.html
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:29 AM
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1. Adorable.
This guy has closet case in violent denial written all over it.
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foxfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:36 AM
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3. "Rolling a fattie" has a special meaning for him.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:32 AM
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2. what if his lyrics were directed at the queen of England? hmm nt
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GodlessBiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 10:42 AM
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4. Good point.
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:10 PM
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5. Polite, peaceful lobbying, my ASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:17 PM
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6. in all fairness to "rappers," this guy is more dancehall than hip-hop..
and dancehall is notoriously homophobic. of course, there are many spitters that are homophobes as well, but i'm just sayin.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:25 PM
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7. Please explain, what is dancehall?
And "spitters?"
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:40 PM
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9. dancehall is a variant of reggae..
spitter is just slang terminology for rapper.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:47 PM
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10. Thanks! Just reading about it now, both from Jamaica. See article below.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dancehall

Dancehall is a type of Jamaican popular music which developed in the late 1970s, initially as a more sparse and less political and religious variant of reggae than the roots style that had dominated much of the 1970s.<1>

In the mid-1980s, digital instrumentation became more prevalent, changing the sound considerably, with digital dancehall (or "ragga") becoming increasingly characterized by faster rhythms with little connection to earlier reggae rhythms. Modern dancehall is also known as bashment.

Dancehall owes its moniker to the spaces in which popular Jamaican recordings were aired by local sound systems and readily consumed by its "set-to-party" patronage; commonly referred to as "dance halls".

Social and political changes in late-1970s Jamaica... Michael Manley's socialist PNP government had been replaced with Edward Seaga's right wing JLP.<1> Themes of social injustice, repatriation, and Rastafari were overtaken by lyrics about dancing, violence, and explicit sexuality.

In 1992, the international backlash to Banton's violently homophobic "Boom Bye-Bye", and the reality of Kingston's violence that saw the deaths of deejays Pan Head and Dirtsman saw another shift, this time back towards Rastafari and cultural themes, with several of the hardcore slack ragga artists finding religion, and the "conscious ragga" scene becoming an increasingly popular movement.

The culture of dancehall
Such a drastic change in the popular music of the region generated an equally radical transformation in fashion trends, specifically those of its female faction. In lieu of traditional, modest "rootsy" styles, as dictated by Rastafari-inspired gender roles; women began donning flashy, revealing – sometimes x-rated outfits. This transformation is said to coincide with the influx of slack lyrics within dancehall, which objectified women as apparatuses of pleasure. These women would team up with others to form "modeling posses", or "dancehall model" groups, and informally compete with their rivals.

This newfound materialism and conspicuity was not, however, exclusive to women or manner of dress. Appearance at dance halls was exceedingly important to acceptance by peers and encompassed everything from clothing and jewelry, to the types of vehicles driven, to the sizes of each respective gang or "crew", and was equally important to both sexes.

Homophobia in dancehall music

Modern dancehall music has come under criticism from Jamaican and international organizations and Jamaican journalists, like Ian Boyne,<8> for homophobic lyrics.

In some rare cases, dancehall artists whose music features homophobic lyrics have had their concerts canceled. Various singers have had international travel restrictions placed on them, and have been investigated by international law enforcement agencies such as Scotland Yard on the grounds that the lyrics incite the audience to assault homosexuals. In 2003, the British LGBT rights group OutRage! called for the arrest of Elephant Man for allegedly inciting the killing of gay men in his song lyrics. He was not arrested. <9> Many of the affected singers believe that such legal or commercial sanctions are essentially an attack against freedom of speech.<10> Some artists eventually agreed not to use offensive lyrics during their concerts in Europe and the US.
These kind of lyrics are virtually non-existent in female dancehall artists' output.



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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:51 PM
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11. Reaction to homophobic dancehall: Stop Murder Music
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Murder_Music

Stop Murder Music is a campaign is jointly run by Outrage!, the Black Gay Men's Advisory Group, and Jamaican gay rights organization Jamaica Forum of Lesbians, All-Sexuals and Gays (J-Flag).<1>

The term 'Murder Music' was coined by British gay rights activist Peter Tatchell in the mid-1990s to describe the homophobic work of certain Jamaican musicians, primarily dancehall and ragga artists who called for and encouraged physical violence and murder of homosexuals.

The Stop Murder Music Campaign have accused Beenie Man, Elephant Man, Sizzla, Bounty Killer, Vybz Kartel, Capleton, T.O.K., Buju Banton and others of promoting anti-gay violence, harassment, and bigotry through their music.

Tatchell has called for laws against homophobic music and the Campaign participated in protests outside concerts. The Campaign has especially objected to lyrics which seem to support violence, including murder, towards gay men. Tatchell's campaign began in the early 1990s when Buju Banton's song "Boom Bye-Bye" was released and has continued to date. Dennis Carney, chair of the Black Gay Men's Advisory Group, argued that the MOBO Awards had a responsibility to exclude anti-gay artists because, "homophobic lyrics in music normalise hatred towards black gay men."<2> Tatchell picketed the MOBO Awards ceremony to protest at their inviting performers of murder music.<3> Tatchell received death threats and was labelled a racist. Tatchell defended himself by pointing to a life's work campaigning against racism, and stated that his statements on Jamaica were in support of terrorised black groups within Jamaica.

Tatchell has also criticised other musicians, including Eminem.<4>

Criticism
Tatchell and the Stop Murder Music campaign have been criticized by The Black Music Council, formed in response to the campaign by the president of Blacker Dread Records, Blacker Dread, in order, "to protect the rights of the eight artistes placed on the Outrage hit list"<10>.

Vice-chairman of the BMC, Doctah X<11>, points out that Jamaica does not have strict anti-gay laws such as Saudi-Arabia, which punishes homosexuality with beheading, and said that Jamaica is an easier target for British activists. Dread accuses Tatchell of racism and extremism, saying, “He’ has gone over way over the top. It’s simply racist to put Hitler and Sizzla in the same bracket and just shows how far he is prepared to go.”<10>

Doctah X says that "Tatchell is like a new Tipper Gore," arguing that, "They both pick on black music. They both believe in censorship."

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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:35 PM
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8. Bio on this "artist"
http://www.cmt.com/artists/az/bounty_killer/bio.jhtml

"Bounty Killer was one of the most aggressive dancehall stars of the '90s, a street-tough rude boy with an unrepentant flair for gun talk. There were many other facets to his music -- condemnations of corrupt authority, collaborations with hardcore hip-hop artists, tributes to his mother, an ongoing DJ rivalry with Beenie Man -- but his main persona was so dominant that many fans instantly associated him with his more violent material. With such seeming contradictions in his personality, his image in Jamaica was not unlike that of 2Pac in America, though of course he was a far less tragic figure. Making his name in Jamaica during the early '90s, Bounty Killer was working extensively in hip-hop crossover territory by the end of the decade, but retained his hard edge no matter what the musical context.

Bounty Killer was born Rodney Price in the Kingston ghetto of Trenchtown on June 12, 1972. One of nine children, he spent much of his childhood in another ghetto, Riverton City, which was built on the former city dump; his family later moved to the rough Seaview Gardens area. His father owned a small sound system, and he first tried his hand at DJ chatting when he was only nine years old. At age 14, he nearly fell victim to the gun violence he would later document so thoroughly in his music; while walking home from school, he was hit by a stray bullet from a gun battle between rival political factions. Fortunately, he made a full recovery, and soon began performing under the name Bounty Hunter for area sound systems like Metromedia, Bodyguard, and Stereo Two. Meanwhile, he and his friends hung around King Jammy's recording studio, hoping to catch a break. Eventually, he met Jammy's brother Uncle T, who produced his first recordings in 1990.

Still working under the name Bounty Hunter, one of his early tunes, "Dub Fi Dub," became a huge dancehall hit as a sound system dubplate. He subsequently changed his name to the fiercer and less common Bounty Killer, and accordingly ratcheted up the confrontational tone of his lyrics. He had a breakout year in 1992 with several major hit singles, the biggest of which were "Copper Shot" (also an underground hit in New York) and the anti-informant "Spy Fi Die." Other songs from this era included "Guns Out," "New Gun," "Kill Fe Fun," "Gunshot Fi Informer," and "Lodge." Many of them appeared on Bounty Killer's debut album, Jamaica's Most Wanted, which was released in 1993 and later issued internationally under the somewhat deceptive title Roots, Reality and Culture (after a socially conscious hit from 1994). Also in 1993, Bounty Killer's lyrical feud with rival Beenie Man first flared up in an on-stage DJ clash; possessed of similar vocal deliveries, each claimed the other as an imitator, and they took their battle to record on the 1994 clash album Guns Out.

With the Jamaican government starting to crack down on violent lyrics in live performances, Bounty Killer began to broaden his subject matter into streetwise social commentary, most notably on the perceptive drug-trade chronicle "Down in the Ghetto."

<snip>

In 1996, Bounty Killer released his defining statement, the 20-track double album My Xperience.

<snip>

In 1998, Bounty Killer returned with a high-profile, guest-laden follow-up to My Xperience, titled Next Millennium.

<snip>

The follow-up, 1999's The 5th Element, marked a return to a purer dancehall style.

In late 2001, Bounty Killer made a prominent guest appearance on No Doubt's international smash "Hey Baby," appearing in the video and performing with the group during the 2002 Super Bowl pregame show.

<snip>

The video inadvertently caused some embarrassment for him back in Jamaica, however: the intensely homophobic dancehall community picked up on the fact that one of its nightclub scenes showed a nude man, and his rivals had a field day.

<snip>

Issued separately and simultaneously in early 2002, Ghetto Dictionary: The Art of War and Ghetto Dictionary: The Mystery mixed mostly new material with a few past singles, and were firmly in the raw, hardcore dancehall style that had made his name. Both sold well among reggae audiences, and The Mystery was nominated for a Grammy for Best Reggae Album.

Later in 2002, Bounty Killer guested on hip-hop producer Swizz Beatz' solo debut, G.H.E.T.T.O. Stories, specifically on the single "Guilty." ~ Steve Huey, All Music Guide

<snip>

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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 12:57 PM
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12. Why homophobic lyrics in reggae music are a health issue for black gay men
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/13190.php

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Why homophobic lyrics in reggae music are a health issue for black gay men.

Sept. 2004

The issue of homophobic lyrics by certain reggae artists is being hotly debated in the media in the run-up to the MOBO awards in late September.

Simon Nelson, Sector Development Officer for BME communities at Terrence Higgins Trust, said: "Whilst homophobia is by no means exclusive to black communities, there is evidence to suggest that homophobic lyrics used by certain artists which incite violence towards gay people have a detrimental effect on the physical and mental wellbeing of black lesbian, gay and bisexual people, particularly gay men.

He continued: "Black gay men are far less likely to be out to friends and family, are more likely to face homophobia from within their own families and may find themselves with no option other than to lead a double life, often feeling that they should remain silent on such issues. This can increase the likelihood of black gay men engaging in risky sexual behaviour, while also not seeking out sexual health information, putting them at increased risk of HIV and other sexually transmitted infections."

Dennis Carney, chair of the Black Gay Men's Advisory Group added: "As black people, we want to celebrate our culture, and the MOBOs are an excellent opportunity to do this, but homophobic lyrics in music normalise hatred towards black gay men. We're keen to work with the MOBOs to resolve this issue by removing all homophobic artists from the awards process and furthering the debate within the wider music industry."

Simon Nelson continued: "We need to widen the debate on the whole issue of tolerance towards gay people within black communities - this must include the issue of homophobic lyrics and the "normalisation" of homophobia, both of which damage our efforts to promote good sexual health and well being. Black gay men experience racism and homophobia on a daily basis and many will only feel further isolated as a result."
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 07:09 PM
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13. homophobia is rampant in jamaica
and so are churches...go figure.
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mrbarber Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-21-08 09:55 PM
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14. Jamaica is extremely homophobic..
My fiance found this out first hand when she visited it with her Ex-Girlfriend.

I will never step foot on that island.
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Morrisons Ghost Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 02:33 PM
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15. I just
Tried to listen to this guys music and I have to tell you...I can't understand a god damn word he says! On a different note...Am I the only person here who can't take either a British or Jamacian rapper seriously?:rofl:
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-22-08 10:32 PM
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16. Me neither.
It's bad enough in the Western Caribbean, but Jamaica is a horror. Frankly, I don't advise anyone to go there.
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