Have they no decency? Pro-prop 8 group launch abovethehate.com

[keepCAblue]

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_11045557?source=rss

Both sides in same-sex marriage debate accuse the other of hate. Day Without A Gay might be a next move

By Mike Swift

Mercury News
Posted: 11/21/2008 05:59:36 PM PST

With another Proposition 8 protest expected to bring thousands to the Capitol in Sacramento today, both sides continue to accuse each other of a four-letter word in the same-sex marriage debate, and it isn't "love."

A pro-Prop 8 group, the National Organization for Marriage, has a new website, AboveTheHate.com, that allows people to sign an electronic letter to "say 'Enough!' to the campaign of hate and intimidation" against supporters of the marriage ban.

In the 18 days since California voters banned same-sex marriage by a 52-48 percent margin, the heat on both sides of the issue, and the name-calling, has yet to dissipate.

One Silicon Valley government employee, a contributor to the Yes on 8 campaign, was listed on www.antigayblacklist.com. She said someone contacted her employer and tried to have her fired because of her support for the same-sex marriage ban.

"One of our children is gay," said the woman, who asked her name not be used for fear of further retribution. "This is a very painful issue for us, but we still have to follow our conscience. What I find shocking is we are not allowed to exercise our rights, but other people are."

Even TV shrink Dr. Phil McGraw got into the act Friday. In a show on Prop. 8 that featured San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom and Maggie Gallagher of the Organization for Marriage, the show asked viewers to send in an e-mail if they had been "attacked for supporting Proposition 8."

Call it a backlash to the backlash over Prop. 8.

Full article--->http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_11045557?source=rss

This is reviling. How dare they try to make themselves out to be the victims in all this. mutherfuckkkkkkkers

[Divine Discontent]

1. how dare you not see they ARE victims!

they are victims of the hate or judgment instilled in them by their clergy!!!! How disgusting that a mom of a gay person actually wrote that she's not allowed to voice her opinion about keeping her kid from marrying! what a fUCCKKKKKKKIN mother fuccckkkker!

You started with the extra kkkkk's, I just had to continue, and I agree with you - how dare they... they are so delusional, but we will win in the end.

Many different Yes We Did items in the Obama/Biden section www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable

[keepCAblue]

5. actually, I should have just put in three Ks ...as in

mutherfuKKKers

[Divine Discontent]

8. true.. but when we're seething with disgust at some of the most obnoxious people known to humanity

(those who would actually take the TIME to go to a website to sign a complaint about their hatred for gays not being accepted), it's hard to not use a whole bunch of K's when calling them stupid hateful motherfuckkkkkkkkkkkkers.

but yeah, you nailed it - KKK.

[roguevalley]

35. more stuff they have to atone for. They are just startled that a

push back has found them out individually and spotlighted them to a lot of angry people. how does it feel? HA!

[mrbarber]

2. One of her children is gay....

And she still supported the Yes on 8 campaign?

My god, what a disgusting, vile waste of organs. I would spit on her, but I wouldn't want to waste the spit.

Edit: Oh, and would someone please ask this atrocious creature what "rights" of hers are being denied? Oh wait, we can't..she's to much of a gutless coward to admit to her grotesque bigotry. Whining, pathetic coward.

[madmadmad]

10. what mother would vote against the interests of her children? now that's HATE.

if bitch was my mom, i would change my name. shame on her.

[kevinbgoode]

23. Exactly. That alone should be grounds for the child to get a legal

"divorce" from her mother. Why should anyone be forced to put up with such deliberate mental abuse from a parent?

[RetiredTrotskyite]

29. JEEEEEEEZUS!

I'm not sure how close my mum ever came to being totally accepting of my spouse (pretty close, probably because she called my spouse her "son-in-law", referred to him as "my son's husband", told him to called her "mum" and attended our wedding), but I doubt she would have voted in hate like that mother did. I think that woman should have nothing more to do with her.

[BrklynLiberal]

3. "Dr" Phool McGraw is a total waste of oxygen. I cannot for the life of me understand why that

dimwit has a TV show...

[bluedawg12]

16. I called it on him. He rides the ratings not the cause.

[really annoyed]

4. Oh, poor babies...

Denying the right of their own children to marry, and then getting attacked for it! AWWWW....

:nopity:

What type of mother would pick an ideology over her children??? WTF?? What about the RIGHTS of her child?? What a fucking bad excuse for a mom. Seriously, fuck her.

[really annoyed]

12. My Message Left at the Article.....

My message is for the anonymous woman who was quoted in this article:

You are a horrible mother. You have chosen ideology over your own child. You believe your child should not have the ability to exercise the right to marry - at the same time, believing that your voice is being trampled upon because you had the audacity to take away a LEGAL RIGHT for gays and lesbians to get married.

If I was your child, I would disown you. What EXACTLY are you choosing over the happiness of your own gay child? Your "conscience?" Your child doesn't exist in that space? How does people of the same-sex getting married violate your conscience? If you don't believe in gay marriage, then don't be gay and get married! It's that simple!

Do you know what I find most shocking though? The simple fact that you believe you have rights, while gays and lesbians don't. You feel you have the RIGHT to TELL OTHERS WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR LIVES, AND THEN HAVE THE GALL TO WHINE WHEN OTHERS CALL YOU UPON IT.

You must look in the mirror daily, and see HYPOCRITE scrawled across your forehead.

You are a sad excuse for a human being, and I feel deeply sorry for your kid.

[Downtown Hound]

25. Wow! Great response!

:thumbsup:

[IndianaGreen]

6. Idiot! Her rights end where someone else's begins

She has no right to deny marriage rights to someone else based on her religious views. My rabbi is more than happy to marry gay couples, but he is prevented to do so by reactionary laws. Why should Jews have to submit to Christian authority? This is anti-Semitism!

[bluedawg12]

17. This is going to be the usual war of words and ideas

and they are getting their propaganda fear machine rolling.

[JeffR]

7. Goddamn these people make me fucking sick.

I wish GLBT DUers strength and clarity and love. You're fighting some vile, hypocritical, evil, arrogant specimens of pseudo-humanity, but there are millions of straight people who stand with you as one.

[iamincali83]

9. AWWW POOR CHRISTIANS!!

:sarcasm:

BTW Why is Dr. Phil's ugly ass getting involved in this???!! :grr:

[Ian David]

37. So many chrisTians, not enough lions. n/t

[Duncan Grant]

11. She revokes our civil rights and complains that she can't exercise her own? WTF?

"One of our children is gay," said the woman... What I find shocking is we are not allowed to exercise our rights, but other people are."

How fucking entitled does one have to be to make such a statement? "Good Christian" people have voted to remove my rights and they have the nerve to complain that their rights are being impinged upon? If stupidity were fatal these fuckers would be dropping like flies.


:nuke: :grr: :nuke: :nuke: :grr: :nuke: :nuke: :grr: :nuke:

[bluedawg12]

18. They DID exercise their rights, they want us to have none

not even the right to peaceful, lawful protest, or the exercise of our free speech.

[kevinbgoode]

24. Exactly....that's why they whine about their "rights" being violated

simply because we exercise ours. . .it's like they are shocked that we are entitled to anything as American citizens.

I say we gather signatures to remove marriage rights from stupid people.

[tsuki]

13. They are trolling for donations. Their H8 campaign is expensive. nt

[readmoreoften]

14. When they do it it's a principled boycott. When we do it its a SCARY BLACKLIST.

[bluedawg12]

19. The "spin" we saw it the moment they called it a blacklist, not boycott

and that will be the buzz word, their memo is out now.

[Duncan Grant]

15. Can't believe I forgot to recommend this! Fixed that. (nt)

[xchrom]

20. recommend

[RedLetterRev]

21. Rec Five and on to the Greatest

and THIS clergyman (irreverent Rev though I may be) will happily (and gayly) marry anybody who wants to be married.

We deserve as much dignity as any other human being inhabiting Mother Earth. Period.

I saw a sig-line a while back that I haven't seen for a while, but it went something like this: Our dignity is the last inch of what we are. But in that last inch, we are free.

Yeah. Like that.

[kevinbgoode]

22. They have to "follow their conscience" about MY marriage?

How arrogant is that? Since when did anyone else get the opportunity to "follow their conscience" about the bible beaters' marriages? Or the Mormons? Or Republicans?

The amazing thing is these people trying to make themselves out to be the victims for sticking their damned noses into my constitutional rights. Uh-uh. You don't get to have a "conscience" about MY marriage - it's none of your business. Unless they are willing to let their own damned marriages become MY business, I'm tired of them trying to tell me about THEIR "consciences" about MY life.

And this crap about "I have a daughter who is gay" Is this how she shows unconditional love? By trying to help punish her daughter?

So the woman is "shocked" that she is getting a backlash for "exercising her rights" to stick her nose in someone else's business? Revolting. Someone needs to ask her how she feels about ripping her own family apart. . .

[cboy4]

26. What a despicable, disgusting woman. One of her children

is gay and she betrays her own flesh and blood by voting to take away his/her's civil rights?

What a nauseating lack of compassion. I would never forgive a family member, especially my own mother for stabbing me in the back.

And then to speak as though it was so painful "one of our children is gay..."

Go to hell lady. You make me sick to my stomach. :puke:

[RedLetterRev]

27. I had another thought

They want to launch AboveTheHate.com?

We ought to launch BeyondOogedyBoogedy.com. Betty Bowers their @$$es right out.

[nichomachus]

28. Their whole campaign has been a campaign of lies -- why would they stop now

No one quite plays the victim like Christians -- Christians love to be victims. They revel in it. If people won't victimize them, they'll beg for it. Many of the early martyrs were martyrs because they went to the authorities and demanded to be killed. Later, when there was no one to pick on them, they started picking on each other. A large part of the violence done against Christians has been done by other Christians.

What a bunch of assholes.

[RetiredTrotskyite]

30. I Found THIS In The Comments Section....

This comment more than anything, shows the hatred being spewed by these bastards. Above the hate, my A$$!!!!



Hooray!

How about a 'year without a gay'?

Better yet, a 'world without a gay'?

Best plan, send them to Iran.

Soon we will be able to identify this human aberration in early pregnancy and terminate accordingly, thus preventing its horrid taint on society.

[bluedawg12]

31. So genocide + eugenics by "pro life" gay haters is the new idea?

Is there any other group in the early 21st century that a hater could write this about and get away with it, other than gays?

[RetiredTrotskyite]

32. This Is The Reply That I Sent...

to the comments section of that article:

Hooray!
How about a 'year without a gay'?
Better yet, a 'world without a gay'?
Best plan, send them to Iran.
Soon we will be able to identify this human aberration in early pregnancy and terminate accordingly, thus preventing its horrid taint on society.


I am putting up the post above to emphasize it in all its genocidal and hateful nastiness. It is people like you who incite homophobes to beat and kill LGBTQ people. I don’t know how you sleep at night—you must not have a conscience or if you do, it is an extremely selective one.

Your comment on soon being “able to identify this human aberration in early pregnancy and terminate accordingly, thus preventing its horrid taint on society” smacks of Nazi eugenics. Are you pro-life”? It doesn’t sound as if you are. Or are you “pro-life” with the exception of those you feel should be exterminated? I suppose that you agree with the Nazi programme of eugenics aimed at Jews, Gypsies, the disabled, or anyone else the Nazis considered to be “unworthy of life”. It is GOD who decides who lives and who dies—whenever someone kills someone he doesn’t like because he finds him or her “unworthy of life” is MURDER! Isn’t one of the Ten Commandments “thou shalt not kill”? The last time I checked it was.

Your sort of inflammatory rhetoric causes gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered, and queer people to be beaten and murdered. It is people like you, who want no rights at all, even the simple right to be married and happy, for gay people that made me go to Canada to get married. It was WONDERFUL to be treated just like anyone else and not some freak who should be eradicated, or if that is not possible, to be oppressed as much as people like you can manage.

As for the mother who voted to enshrine hate in law even though her daughter is gay, I am so thankful that I had a loving mother who worked past her homophobia to the point where she accepted my HUSBAND, called him her “SON-IN-LAW”, asked him to call her “MUM”, and attended our wedding. Just in case any of you think my late mother was some sort of atheist freethinker, think again. She was a devout Missouri Synod Lutheran. She might not have been completely comfortable with my being gay, but she loved her son and wanted to be supportive. Now THAT is a mother! I didn’t hassle her into attending (if you knew her, you would know that she couldn’t be hassled into doing ANYTHING she did not want to do).

The poster who would like to see gay people exterminated need to wake up and realise that God will hold those who hate accountable when they are judged. Hatred and murder are hatred and murder regardless of the circumstances.

[bluedawg12]

33. Wow! Well said! You hit the high points of the implications of that hateful OP

It may not make a dent on the sociopath who wrote the little hate-list, but others who are still not poisoned by hate may have second and third thoughts about agreeing with such filth.

Well done, sir, well done.

[RetiredTrotskyite]

34. Thank You, Bluedawg

[Ian David]

36. "Doctor" Phil is on the side of Prop 8? n/t