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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:40 PM
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NYC, Philadelphia In Gay Slug Fest
http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/04/040805nyPhil.htm


New York City and Philadelphia are slugging it out for the title 'birthplace of gay civil rights'.

For a generation New York has laid claim to the honor - pointing to the the 1969 Stonewall riot - which started when patrons of a gay bar in Greenwich Village fought back in a police raid

But, now, Philadelphia - the City of Brotherly Love - is fighting back, pointing to a 1965 demonstration in front of Independence Hall.


don't these people have more imporant things to worry about like having basic civil rights taken away
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:45 PM
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1. They may have all been a part of the gay rights revolution,
but where are they during the new "civil reichs revolution" ?
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:15 PM
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11. Don't worry , hon , we are all still here and waiting
Unfortunately our strate counterparts bred themselves a lot of complacent/conservative babies. I am still ready to help, but you can't take your medication to jail. I've done my time on the picket lines, the police riots(many), and yes even in jail. And guess who had to get me out? ME. Too old to go to the front lines now. It would be terribly embarrassing for the younger generation if washed up old hippies ended up out there alone.
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libnnc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:46 PM
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2. Technically, it was Philly, but you're right...
FOCUS, PEOPLE, FOCUS!!!
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 04:58 PM
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3. Sorry, but...
NYC is just gayer than Philly! NYC wins! Now take a walk on the wild side and the colored girls say do da do da do do do da do...
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:07 PM
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4. ROFL
Does Philly have a Gay Street (West Village)? Grew up in the Village. My Catholic Elementary School was down the street from the Stonewall. As a preteen I used to cat sit for a man in my building who was a bartender at the Stonewall. Ah, remember it well.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 02:07 PM
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10. me too, I remember it well
I was in the Stonewall a week or so before the incident. It was a wide open place, lots going on. I was trading joints for drinks with the bartender, and it was the kind of place that still had a backroom complete with heavy black curtains. When it happened,however, I was back in SF dancing the nights away at the Capri, after hours at pearls, and the Big Basket. Ah the 60's
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prodigal_green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-08-05 05:45 PM
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5. Isn't it wonderful that they are
arguing who is gayer? I LOVE it!
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 02:09 PM
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6. I, being from DC, always was thought it was Mattachine Society
of Franklin Kameny, demonstrating in Lafayette Park (a cruising park back then, by the way) in front of the White House, in 1964, I think but it might have been earlier. There are pictures of this event.

But gay activists were already participating in civil rights and then Vietnam marches anyway, so I agree with you. We have much more important things to worry about.

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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 02:27 PM
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7. a look at the history of Gay rights
will most likely point you to San Francisco, the capital of All things Gay. When stonewall broke out SF was already(as was NYC) in full bloom. and there had been many incidents-pickets- gains, etc
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-09-05 10:29 PM
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8. the California Hall incident 1964
is widely regarded as a 'breakthrough"
http://members.aol.com/sfpdriot/history.html
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UncleSepp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-10-05 04:38 AM
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9. There are gay slugs?
Wow, and enough of them to have a party in TWO cities!
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-11-05 11:55 PM
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12. Philly? Wishful thinking.
Coming out in the Philadelphia area in the late 80s and early 90s was a nightmare. I don't care if there was a little uprising there in '65. It ain't no birthplace of gay civil rights. It's not the birthplace of ANY civil rights. Philly's a pretty mean city and until recently pretty hostile towards gays.

Just my 2 shiny pennies.
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