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T Roosevelt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 05:57 PM
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Any advice on the various cleanses?
I've been reading Kevin Trudeau's book, Natural Cures "They" Don't Want You To Know About, and he talks alot about colon, liver, candida, etc cleanses. Conceptually it makes sense, and I'm wondering what the DU experience is...
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DeadManInc Donating Member (844 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:07 PM
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1. We need something that works good
so we can flush out the white house. It is backed up with shit!
:hurts:

:hurts:

:hurts:
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China_cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:15 PM
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2. Total fraud.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:46 PM
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6. I'll echo that
Some quackery will give you a lift from the placebo effect. However, some is downright harmful. Check out Quackwatch to be able to tell the difference.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:53 PM
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7. my comment was based on Stanley Burroughs system based on Dr Wilhelm's
theory's..which ave been partially verified in the last few years. Dr Wilhelm was arrested by the feds and murdered in his prison cell after advertising, called mail fraud, for researchers to investigate his cancer cure in the united states. then his research was confiscated and condemned then locked in a federal safe for 75 years. a guy stoled and published some of his work and got 15 years in Leavenworth at hard labor for 3 pages

Stanley didn't sell an expensive program., his fast was just a pamphlet for 50 cents.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:21 PM
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3. I did a colon cleansing fast about 5 years ago.
It was quite intense. No food for 7 days, just juice with some herbal supplements & a bentonite drink -- each 3 times daily at 2 hour intermittent intervals. I lost 8 pounds & my skin simply glowed after wards. My skin & hair were so soft & I swear, my nails must have grown twice their usual rate during that week. I was not energetic during the fast, but I was not lethargic or weak either. The first 2 1/2 days I was very hungry, but after that, I didn't notice a feeling of being hungry. I did it while working a 40 hour week -- not easy! But it can be done. I've always wanted to try it again, but just never have.

You might look into juice fasting too. Not quite as radical, but still a good flush for your system. There are some health officials who believe you should fast once a week. I've thought about trying that too, but again . . .

Here is a somewhat radical book to colon health. I have it & I think many of his suggestions are good, but as usual, if you have any serious health issues, you should check with your doctor. Some of the photos in here are quite shocking & gross. But I suspect it is very common with our culture's 'super size me' junk food diet.


"Dr. Jensen's Guide to Better Bowel Care: A Complete Program for Tissue Cleansing Through Bowel Management" by Bernard Jensen

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895295849/qid=1136502790/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-3444144-6171150?n=507846&s=books&v=glance


If you try something, I'm curious to hear what you do & your results!



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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:33 PM
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4. Bentonite...I used that to line stock tanks we dug in Texas!
It's about the finest powdered clay you've ever seen! Eating clay sounds down right earthy. Licking clay sticks is popular in certain parts of Africa.

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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 07:03 PM
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8. LOL! It was the most vile drink I've ever had!
Not in taste, just in texture.

"Eating clay sounds down right earthy." :rofl:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-05-06 06:35 PM
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5. i use fiber with each meal and a purging fast every 2 or 3 months, +Yogurt
Edited on Thu Jan-05-06 06:42 PM by sam sarrha
what do was called the Master Cleanser, 25 years ago. it is based on Dr Wilhelm Reich ideas that the intestines get coated with mucus and stuff gets caught in the folds and turns .. creating a resident case of food poisoning.

http://www.bc1.com/~vitagem/Master_Cleanser.htm

I do not use Maple Syrup, i use lemons/limes and Fructose sugar, but i am closet the east coast now, and got some pretty cheap at Sam's.

there isn't any Maple Syrup where i was then. The idea is to provide the necessary energy during the extended fast, 14 days, so you can still work and finish the fast.. i am never hungry during the fast, i actually get 'Energized'.. a note about the fast.. get some really soft toilet paper, dab dont wipe and apply some neosporin, you dont want to get a sore ass hole while passing a lot of Salt water, i use 2 slightly rounded teaspoons of sea salt in a quart of cold water, the salt solution is supposed to be the same as plood plasma so you dont absorb the salt nor get dehydrated, it just runs thru in about20 minutes when things are cleaned out. which was the only reason i couldn't do 14 days. use Cold water for the salt water, and try to drink it without stopping.. each time you drink and stop is more time on the toilet, as it will pass in stages.. and you dont really have to drink a quart, you can start with a pint. after about 6 days all that comes out is a golden water and large sheets of filmy mucus,, and gravel like pieces that get dislodged.. i heard on the Prime time CNN news that people in their 50's and 60's can have between 10 and 25 pounds of hardened crap stuck in their intestines, it was a story about why guys couldn't get rid of their 'Pot Bellies' exercising when they are older. when you start eating start with broth and over cooked vegies, and build up to solid food, youcan get an impaction if you go out and eat a dozen doughnuts.

I use Flax meal and oat Bran as my fiber, Psylium backs me up for 3 or 4 day's if i miss a meal with it, and it is Gassy... I Never use it anymore.

I get flax seed at the health food store and grind it in my coffee grinder, mix some with oat bran and i eat some with each meal. my doctor made me take my cholesterol tests twice because all my annual tests were Exactly MID RANGE at 55 years old, he could not believe it.. he grilled me for info about what i ate and exercised.. he was more than 10 years younger and was already on medication.. mine was WAY High before i started this program.. i also consume cultured milk with every meal about 1/2 cup.. i make a yogurt drink using low fat milk with a 5 bacteria yogurt. i use a 1/4 or 1/2 cup of yogurt and set it in a covered pitcher on top of the refrigerator for 4 or 5 days, less in the summer.. i give the dogs some fiber and a little cultured milk with their meal.. they wont even eat without it.

my wife had bowel problems till she started eating my stuff.. she used to spend 1/4 to 1/2 hour on toilet, now it is less than a minute..
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 12:53 AM
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9. I've used Hulda Clark's liver cleanse & parasite cleanse
Edited on Fri Jan-06-06 12:56 AM by philb
they are very effective. Millions have done so also. A lot of other's cleanses are based on her books
such as A Cure for All Cancer (the cure is detox & cleanses, which is documented to work for large numbers)
Gerson clinics use somewhat simiar detox methods effectively

The CDC has confirmed her statements that a high percentage of people have parasites, as have medical labs(whose web sites have documentation on them) and Clinics that treat people with chronic conditions. Everyone is exposed to parasites, bacteria, viruses, mycoplasma- so people with weakened immune systems are susceptible and most people with chronic conditions are found to have mycoplasma, parasites,etc. So they have to be treated, along with boosting their immune systems. Glyconutrients are one way to boosts immune system and help immune system deal with the invaders. But there are other ways also useful.

But a reasonable alternative for detox and cleanses is colonics, which can cleanse and detox the digestive system which makes a big difference in health. Coffee enemas(like Gerson) are also useful- organic coffee.
I personally know many who've recovered from various types of cancer, and testimonials are easy to find.

There is documentation that chronic toxic exposures/body burden are a major factor in most chronic conditions, and detox is effective in preventing and improving such conditions.
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-06-06 09:44 PM
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10. Watch out for the fakes
Ionic silver is not, not many belive me, but I have been there with the life of my wife in my hands, and we are both here today for a little while, to tell you it works!
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