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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:11 PM
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Norway becomes first country to ban amalgam, Sweden not far
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 06:12 PM by 4MoronicYears
behind... other nations soon to follow suit. Of course, they are batshit crazy, must be the water.


http://www.naturalnews.com/022943.html





(NaturalNews) Effective January 1st of this year, Norway has become the first nation to legislate a sweeping ban on the use of amalgam fillings in dental work. Previous laws forbid the use of mercury-containing fillings in more vulnerable segments of the population, such as pregnant women and children, but the new law is the first to forbid the use of the toxic metal without exemption. Mercury has also been banned from all other products produced, imported, exported, sold, and used in the country.

In a prepared statement, Norway’s Minister of Environment and Development, Erik Solheim stated that “Mercury is among the most dangerous environmental toxins. Satisfactory alternatives to mercury in products are available, and it is therefore fitting to introduce a ban.”

Sweden has followed suit with a ban on mercury fillings effective April 1st, 2008, and other countries are now contemplating similar moves.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:21 PM
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1. Wow.
I'm impressed.

I had my amalgams replaced with natural organic
filler a few years ago. Then I had chelation.

No mercury in my system, I hope.

Sue
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 11:36 AM
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19. I can recommend a bunch of other placebo procedures, if you're still in the market for them
What's the harm, right?
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 09:56 AM
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23. Mercury from dental amalgams documented to be a cause of over 30 chronic health conditions
including MS, Cardiovascular Disease, chronic neurological conditions, Lupus, Arthritis, Thyroid & Endocrine diseases,
etc.
www.flcv.com/indexa.html

and many thousands have been documented to have recovered after dental amalgam replacement
www.flcv.com/hgrecovp.html

www.flcv.com/hgremove.html


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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:21 PM
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2. Uh-oh! This could overshadow the Russert debate!
:popcorn:

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:27 PM
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4. Ummmm..... not to worry, the sweepers will be here soon to
clear up the missteps of these incredibly stupid foreign govermental health agencies and make me stand in the corner some more.

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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:25 PM
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3. I think they should of been banned long ago.
Many dentist's contined to use them for years even after adaptic fillings became available...which are 100% safe.
I had all mine replaced and they are much better looking and just as durable.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:30 PM
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5. Half Norwegian descent, half Swedish here. Question: Could lutefisk be next?
I guess not, but in the name of humanity. . .

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:31 PM
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6. But but what tunes can one play on a lutefish???
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 07:13 PM
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10. All Norse here but I will approach the lutefisk issue with caution
and a lot of melted butter.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:25 PM
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11. And cream sauce, as well, ya sure.
Never got a taste for lutefisk, but LOVE that pickled herring. Mmmmmm......
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:40 PM
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7. Someone lost their broooooooooooommmmmmm.... I see. n/t
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Imagine My Surprise Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:53 PM
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8. Naturally, I just completed 10 months of dental work at U of L Dental School...
and I have a head full of this stuff. Just when I was wondering what else could go wrong.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:31 PM
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12. Not to worry, after a hundred years, it's all baby food and
diapers anyway. Smile for the camera woncha?
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 06:59 PM
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9. Politics trumps science--Harvard Med School Study:
Edited on Sun Jun-15-08 07:00 PM by cosmik debris
From Children's Hospital Boston, and Harvard Medical School

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16622139?dopt=Abstract

CONCLUSIONS: In this study, there were no statistically significant differences in adverse neuropsychological or renal effects observed over the 5-year period in children whose caries were restored using dental amalgam or composite materials. Although it is possible that very small IQ effects cannot be ruled out, these findings suggest that the health effects of amalgam restorations in children need not be the basis of treatment decisions when choosing restorative dental materials.


From the Department of Dental Public Health Sciences, School of Dentistry, University of Washington, Seattle, WA

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16622140?dopt=Abstract

CONCLUSIONS: In this study, children who received dental restorative treatment with amalgam did not, on average, have statistically significant differences in neurobehavioral assessments or in nerve conduction velocity when compared with children who received resin composite materials without amalgam. These findings, combined with the trend of higher treatment need later among those receiving composite, suggest that amalgam should remain a viable dental restorative option for children.


I realize facts will not change the opinion of the OP, but facts do deserve equal time.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 08:35 PM
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13. I like the bold highlight... adds so much more to my belief
system. Perhaps you'd like to consider the effects of a mother leaching from her own body Hg into the developing nervous system of her yet unborn child. When you can begin to imagine what that might contribute to then you will be on the path to understanding.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-15-08 10:36 PM
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14. Oh the horrors!
Who needs science when you've got hyperbole? eom
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:19 AM
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15. When it comes to understanding the interplay between
environmental stressors and degenerative disease science is in the ozone.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 05:47 AM
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16. What? eom
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-16-08 07:09 AM
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17. His Ouija Board Trumps Harvard Med School.
What can you say? :shrug:
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TZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:35 PM
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20. Oh bullshit
So once again you claim to understand the science better than the professionals. I ASK AGAIN-WHAT ARE YOUR CREDENTIALS?
You remind me of the people who watched the news and decided that they KNEW that silicone implants were making them sick because the MEDIA said so, when it was concluded SCIENTIFICALLLY that 90% of the health issues WERE NOT RELATED TO SILICONE.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:45 PM
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21. And the bulk of the other 10% IIRC
Were either the result of specific sensitivity to silicone or to improper use/handling of the implants.


Of course, media-driven frenzy will trump stodgy ol' science 11 times out of 10 (that one's for you, Temeah!)


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Tumbulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 01:01 AM
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18. five years is not very long
These conclusions do not impress me. I am interested in long term health issues. My guess is that the mercury in the amalgam is just one of the many many toxins people are exposed to. Why not reduce or eliminate all the ones we have control over personally as we cannot do much about what is in the air or water (I have to buy filtered water as our well waters in our area are contaminated with mercury thanks to 100 year old mines that have been abandoned and not cleaned up).

When I decided to replace all my amalgam with gold in the mid 80's it was because it seemed like a bad idea to be walking around with a bunch of mercury in my mouth. My own conclusion based on common sense.

It might be true that our health care system cannot afford to pay for composites for all children. It might be true that for many people the little bit of mercury that might leach is insignificant and presents no health risk whatsoever. But I cannot conclude that five year comparisons showing the absence of acute problems proves safety. It only shows the absence of acute problems within that time frame.





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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-17-08 08:47 PM
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22. Five years is short, but a century and a half is not
Amalgam has been used since the 1800's, with no conclusive study during that time finding that its use has led to the problems now so commonly and dubiously ascribed to it.

You make an excellent point about environmental contaminants; it would be helpful IMO if the anti-amalgam crowd were to consider the full impact of these contaminants rather than simply latching onto the first source of mercury that springs to mind (however dubious).
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 10:40 AM
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26. You simply don't bother to read the studies- of which there are thousands
documented adverse health effects of mercury, and mercury from amalgam.

No experts(medical or dental) disagree that amalgam is the largest source of mercury in most who have seveal amalgams
www.flcv.com/damspr1.html

or that amalgam is the main cause of chronic immune conditions such as Oral Lichen Planus
www.flcv.com/olp.html

or many other chronic oral conditions www.flcv.com/periodon.html


similar for other types of conditions

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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 10:04 AM
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24. No science in that study- its been documented to be bogus and misleading
You didn't bother to read the follow up studies or articles,

or the thousands of peer-reviewed studies that document the mechanisms by which mercury from dental amalgam causes
over 30 chronic health conditions www.flcv.com/indexa.html

and the fact many thousands have been documented to have recovered after dental amalgam replacement
www.flcv.com/hgrecovp.html

www.flcv.com/hgremove.html


Dental amalgam is documented to be the largest source of mercury in most people who have several amalgam fillings
averaging 30 micrograms exposure daily, extremely high and over health standards
www.flcv.com/damspr1.html

For this reason, dental amalgam has also been doucmented to be the largest source of mercury in sewers and sewer sludge,
and a major source of mercury in water bodies and fish, with warning for over 30% of U.S. water bodies for mercury in fish.
www.flcv.com/damspr2f.html

Mercury from amalgam has been documented by autopsy studies to accumulate in the brain and major organs, and to cause significant adverse health effects in large number of people over time
www.flcv.com/amalg6.html


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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 08:25 PM
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28. Your studies are bogus and it's been proven again and again and again.
Please go crawl back under your rock and disappear like you always do.
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philb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-21-08 10:10 AM
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25. As noted related to the recent FDA warning about health effects of amalgam, U.S. soon to follow
See the FDA warning thread; a settlement in a suit against FDA will result in major changes in
regulation of amalgam in the U.S.

Many states in the U.S. and many other countries already require warnings by dentists who use it of the potential adverse health effects (which are well documented in the medical literature)

But dentists in modern countries including the U.S. are phasing out amalgam use anyway, since it has been documented to cause
adverse health effects to the dental staff, as well as to patients who have amalgams. Most dentists in Europe and Japan don't use amalgam, and the number in U.S. who don't has just passed 50%.
www.flcv.com/dental.html

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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-22-08 06:15 PM
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27. ...
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