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RedEarth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 07:53 PM
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Vasectomy: Safe, Simple and Little Used
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 08:07 PM by RedEarth
Vasectomies are safer and more cost-effective than tubal ligations, the sterilization technique for women, but remain relatively underused.

A new no-scalpel vasectomy technique significantly reduces complications.

A tiny puncture and a little snip, done under local anesthetic — that’s essentially all there is to a vasectomy.

“Vasectomies are the safest, simplest, most cost-effective method of contraception we have,” said Dr. Edmund Sabanegh Jr., director of the Clinic for Male Fertility at the Cleveland Clinic Foundation.

They are also strikingly little-used. About 500,000 American men have the operation each year. More than twice as many women undergo tubal ligation for permanent contraception, even though that operation costs three to four times as much, requires general anesthesia and an abdominal incision, and carries a small but real risk of serious complications.

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The chief advance is the no-scalpel vasectomy, a technique pioneered in China in the 1970s that has been steadily gaining popularity in the United States. In a traditional vasectomy, doctors make two half-inch incisions on either side of the scrotum to sever the vas deferens, the two narrow tubes that carry sperm from the testicles during ejaculation. The no-scalpel approach does away with the need for incisions.

In the new technique, doctors use their fingers to locate the vas deferens by feel through the thin skin of the scrotum.

“Once we’ve located the vas, we make a tiny poke-hole over it,” said Dr. Phillip Werthman, director of the Center for Male Reproductive Medicine and Vasectomy Reversal in Los Angeles. The hole can be gently expanded in a way that pushes blood vessels aside rather than cutting through them, so there is almost no bleeding. Using a hooked instrument, surgeons pull the vas through the hole, then cut it.

“A lot of men can’t even tell where the procedure was done afterwards, the hole we make is that small,” said Dr. Goldstein, who was the first Western doctor to travel to China to learn the technique. Compared with traditional techniques, no-scalpel vasectomies result in less bleeding, less postoperative pain and quicker recovery. They also require less time to perform — a little more than 10 minutes in the hands of an experienced surgeon.

Although the traditional incision method is still more widely used, that is likely to change as more and more medical schools teach the no-scalpel approach.

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With current techniques, the chance of an unwanted pregnancy occurring in the first year after a vasectomy is 1 in 1,000, Dr. Sabanegh said. Some of those failures are the fault of the patient, not the procedure. Because it can take several months for sperm remaining after a vasectomy to be washed out, men are counseled to use other contraception methods until tests show that their semen is free of active sperm. Many men don’t bother. In a 2006 study of 436 vasectomies, researchers at the Cleveland Clinic Foundation found that only three out of four returned for follow-up semen analysis, and only 21 percent followed the full instructions to continue to be tested until two specimens came up negative.



http://health.nytimes.com/ref/health/healthguide/esn-vasectomy-ess.html?ref=health

I had the "new" no-scalpel vasectomy done twenty years ago and it took maybe 10-15 minutes and other than a slight "pulling" sensation, I didn't feel a thing. Very easy and went straight back to work.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:00 PM
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1. Glad to hear that there is another option.
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:02 PM
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2. good lord-- I had no idea vasectomies were "underused...."
My vasectomy was one of my all time best medical (and personal) decisions EVER. Easy, fast, relatively cheap, and it freed my partners from exogenous hormones. What's not to like?
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:13 PM
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3. What's an orgasm like though?
:shrug:
*I'm not trying to be a perv, I'm just curious*
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:29 PM
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6. same as it ever was....
No worries-- that was obviously one of my concerns, too. Semen is mostly fluid from the prostate, Cowper's gland, etc. Sperm are only a tiny component by bulk and even then, they are contributed to semen from the seminal vesicles, not directly from the testes, so there is no discernible difference either way. Well, there is ONE difference, and it's huge. It's just an orgasm. There's nothing to worry about. That's incredibly liberating.
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eyesroll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:22 PM
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4. My mom had the tubal rather than my dad getting the vasectomy.
Their reasoning: She knew for a fact she was absolutely done having kids. Period. It wouldn't have mattered if my dad left or died the next day--she was done.

My dad, however, wasn't so sure. He respected my mom's desire to stop at two, but if they had split or my mom had passed away, he didn't want to limit his ability to have more children with a second wife.

As it is, they're both in their 60s now, in excellent health, and clearly done having children regardless.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:26 PM
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5. well, I don't like pain very much
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and most doctors I know don't think pain is a big deal, and I've been in agony over a simple stitching of a laceration on my arm or my face - - -

I sure ain't gonna let them near my nuts unless I'm on death's door.

I'm a licensed mechanic, auto and truck - we call this a TRADE

Doctors and Lawyers call their business a "practice"

and YOU are it!

something to ponder . . .
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:35 PM
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7. my experience was really minimal pain....
None at all from the procedure-- well, a brief stick for the anesthetic injection, but that was less painful than a blood draw. The recovery was just the tiniest bit sore for about two days. It didn't restrict my activities at all (although I did enjoy the sympathy, even if it was unnecessary...). To tell the truth, the most uncomfortable part of the whole experience was the slight itching of hair regrowing on the shaved spot. Really. That was the worst.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:40 PM
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9. had mine for 30 years, much higher standard of living with no children, why bring em into this dying
world to suffer
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 08:40 PM
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8. Glad I had one. One of the best decisions I ever made.
Inexpensive, relatively speaking. 20 minutes, tops. I have three daughters with my first (and my only) wife. Love them, but don't have to worry about any more coming along unexpectedly.
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Possumpoint Donating Member (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:02 PM
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10. 36 Years Ago
Mine was painful. The local only took on one side. When he tied off the vas on the other side he lifted me clean off the table. Then three nights later on my part time job a shoplifter threw his groceries at the store dick as a distraction to get away and I caught a quart jar of mayonnaise in the crotch splitting three stitches on the spot.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:20 PM
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12. Oh man!
  Ugh! That's some bad luck...whew. Glad you're better now!

PB
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:13 PM
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11. I had a no-scalpel vasectomy done about 5 years ago...never regretted it!
Edited on Fri Jun-27-08 09:22 PM by Poll_Blind
  Already had one child, now have 3 including 2 from my girlfriend's previous marriage. The doctor could tell I was geeking out on the procedure and offered to show me the actual vas as he pulled it up through the hole and then (if I recall correctly) cut/burn it with some cauterization thingy. It was a while back and I took them up on the optional Valium before the procedure so I don't remember it as well as I might otherwise.

  The vas looked like an opaque white rubber tube. There is no part of my body which looks like white rubber tubing so I found this immensely interesting. I had cat balls (really, really sensitive testicles) for about 3 weeks, and then it went away entirely. However, the aching was so persistent that I was afraid (especially after reading some post-op testimonials on line) that it might not go away at all.

  But it did. Everything feels and works and looks and all that other stuff exactly as it did before.

  No, that's not true. I don't know how to describe it but the orgasms are noticeably better because I have 0% stress that I might get my partner pregnant. I didn't realize how much stress I had until I lost it after the procedure. It was like getting a whole new pecker all over again!

PB

On edit: I think he also crimped the ends or something with a metal crimp. Once I saw the smoke coming off my burning vas I decided to stare back up at the ceiling.
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qanda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-27-08 09:43 PM
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13. My hubby had one about 7 years ago after we had two children and knew we were done
It was a great decision and I don't think we would have done anything differently.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 08:13 AM
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14. Glad they've improved from when I had mine
20 years ago, or thereabouts. It was painful and unpleasant and the recovery was long and also unpleasant.

I don't regret having had it done, but I wish the experience had been better.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 10:14 AM
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15. 8 years ago for me...
and it was a piece of cake. Out-patient surgery in the morning, and took the afternoon off work. No pain or swelling to speak of, and sex is better than ever.

Sid
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-28-08 11:22 PM
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16. Not surprising
Edited on Sat Jun-28-08 11:23 PM by MountainLaurel
I've known men who wouldn't get their dogs neutered, projecting their own penile and testicular issues.
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-09-08 09:13 AM
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17. I had mine and just got back my second test results declaring me sterile
yay!

There was a little pain and discomfort for a few days, but overall not bad at all. It definitely did not affect my sex drive, and if anything sex is better because of the lower worry about pregnancy.
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-10-08 10:37 PM
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18. The ongoing cancer discussion still has me spooked.
Yes, I know there are published studies showing no link. There are also published studies showing that prostate cancer rates jumped noticeably. The current "official" verdict is that there is indeed a "very small" additional risk, but that studies are to inconclusive to prove anything serious.

I have no attachment to my sperm, but I'm already a high cancer risk because of genetic and environmental factors. I'll avoid doing ANYTHING that increases my chances of developing the #2 cancer killer in men, even if those chances are very small.
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