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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 06:51 PM
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Migraine's - Try Celery
Edited on Mon Jul-21-08 06:52 PM by otohara
I'm going on day 4 of celery for my almost daily migraines - and so far I'm thrilled with the results. I cooked the ends and leaves and made a celery broth to refridgerate, eating the good looking stalks throughout the day - next step if this positive result continues - A Vegetable Juicer. Celery has something in it that helps with inflammation of the brain.

Here's a couple articles about Celery/Migraines

Curing Migraines with Celery

"I have discovered a cure that starts within 30 minutes for migraine headaches."

That compelling comment comes from an HSI member named Menken who has posted her migraine therapy on the HSI Healthier Talk forum titled "Headaches/Migraine." Menken writes: "I juice up a bunch of celery and take 2 oz of juice whenever I feel a migraine coming on. Then I lay down and within 30 minutes my migraine starts going away most of the time."

If her migraine doesn't go away, step tw o in Menken's regimen calls for another helping of celery juice, this time doubled to four ounces. The result? "I have never had to take a third dose."

Besides the fact that this natural treatment seems to work wonders for Menken, her comments also serve as a sobering reminder of just how debilitating migraines can be. In her posting she mentions details such as having three migraines in four days, flashes of light in her field of vision, and one migraine so intense that she couldn't lie down.http://www.hsibaltimore.com/ealerts/ea200503/ea20050310.html

Juice Therapy

Celery juice is rich in coumarins, substances that have a soothing effect on the vascular system and that may benefit those prone to migraines, says naturopathic physician Michael Murray, N.D., author of The Complete Book of Juicing. Fresh celery juice may be drunk alone or combined with other vegetable juices, such as carrot, cucumber, parsley and spinach. Dr. Murray says to drink an eight-ounce glass of the juice twice a day as a preventive, in conjunction with proper medical treatment. http://www.mothernature.com/library/bookshelf/books/21/156.cfm



Can Celery Help Cut Brain Inflammation?
Study Shows Antioxidant in Celery Has Potential in the Fight Against Alzheimer's
By Kelli Miller Stacy
WebMD Health News
Reviewed by Louise Chang, MD

May 20, 2008 -- A compound found in celery and green peppers may help protect against inflammatory brain conditions.

The compound, called luteolin, is a potent antioxidant known for its anti-inflammatory properties. Luteolin belongs to a family of plant molecules called flavonoids, which are found in various vegetables, fruits, and beverages, including chamomile tea.

Researchers have rigorously studied the potential health effects of flavonoids for more than a decade. Previous studies have shown that flavonoids can help counter dementia caused by brain inflammation.

For the current study, Saebyeol Jang of the division of nutritional sciences at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign and colleagues investigated how luteolin acts on cells called microglia taken from mice. Microglia are scattered throughout the central nervous system and are principally responsible for the brain's immunological defense. Excessive production of inflammatory molecules produced by microglia in the brain can worsen neurodegenerative changes seen in animal studies on Alzheimer's disease and an inflammatory brain condition called Creutzfeld-Jakob disease.

Jang's team exposed mice microglia cells to bacteria and then treated them with the luteolin. Their experiment showed that luteolin reduced the inflammation triggered by the bacteria. The researchers also learned that the celery compound blocked a "promoter" to the gene that coded for an inflammatory signaling molecule.http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20080519/can-celery-help-cut-brain-inflammation

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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 07:12 PM
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1. I've never had a migraine, but I've made suggestions to help those that do
and they don't want to hear it because they've heard and tried it all. I don't make suggestions anymore.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 08:23 PM
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2. Is there any evidence that this works? eom
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:36 PM
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4. Oh but of course!
Menken writes: "I juice up a bunch of celery and take 2 oz of juice whenever I feel a migraine coming on. Then I lay (sic) down and within 30 minutes my migraine starts going away most of the time."

If her migraine doesn't go away, step two in Menken's regimen calls for another helping of celery juice, this time doubled to four ounces. The result? "I have never had to take a third dose."


So, as written, this is what happens:
1) She gets a migraine.
2) She drinks 2 oz. celery juice.
3) She lies down (presumably in a quiet, dark place) - coincidentally, a normally recommended (by evul "western" medicine!) method to deal with migraines.
4) The migraine goes away "most of the time!"

OBVIOUSLY, dear varkam, it was the celery juice. And for even more proof of its power, if it doesn't work the first time, she takes more! (And probably lies down for more time, which is irrelevant, really. Her experience obviously proves it's the juice.) ;-)
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:01 PM
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5. I'm sold.
From which giant evil pharmaceutical company can I purchase this..."celery juice"?
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 10:20 PM
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6. A newcomer on the scene - Campbell's Pharmaceuticals
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:09 PM
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7. You realize, it's incredibly dumb to be dismissive of posts about food and disease, right?
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 03:21 PM by HamdenRice
The cure for headache and fever for centuries was an extract of the bark of the willow tree (aspirin), the preventive treatment for malaria for decades was made from the bark of the South American cinchona tree (quinine), and pain killers were the extract of a flower (morphine).

Pharmaceutical companies spend millions of dollars screening components of various plants for medicinal purposes.

To a priori ridicule someone for suggesting that a food might have a theraputic effect is the hallmark of an exceptionally and tragically limited, cognitively compromised mentality.

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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 03:22 PM
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8. Hello, stalker!
Missed ya!
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 04:05 PM
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9. "...a tragically limited, cognitively compromised mentality"?
Someone sure pissed in your coffee this morning.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-21-08 09:34 PM
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3. This would be awesome
if it works. My migraines are getting more and more frequent.
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Sanity Claws Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 08:13 PM
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10. I wish things were this simple
I ate a lot of celery and still got migraines. Celery has been a part of my daily diet for years.
The only thing that worked for me was Chinese herbs and acupuncture.
Under Traditional Chinese Medicine, not all migraines are the same and should not be treated the same.

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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 09:59 PM
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11. Celery juice it teh evuhl!
Better lay off that wicked celery juice, or you might win the undying scorn and contempt of Varkam and Trotsky, and that's worse than any migraine. ;)
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:05 PM
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12. Hey, all I asked for was evidence. Shouldn't be too hard to provide, right?
Edited on Tue Jul-22-08 11:06 PM by varkam
Oh, wait a minute...who needs evidence when you've got anecdotes? Hell, that's one reason why homeopathy is so "effective".
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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:36 PM
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13. I suffer from migraines
I've got a juicer, tomorrow I'm buying celery. I'm not going to wait around for *evidence* on celery :eyes:

Oh, and I use homeopathy for various ailments - and it works! :hi:
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-22-08 11:55 PM
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14. Feel free to do what you want.
Edited on Wed Jul-23-08 12:28 AM by varkam
I'm just saying that there's no evidence that it does jack shit. Ditto for homeopathy. Well, unless you count the placebo effect. So pardon me for not taking your word, but I'll trust the science.

Oh, and I've heard that carrot juice is great for migraines, too. And rutabaga juice. And beet juice. And lemon juice. And pumpkin seeds. Might want to pick some of those up while you're out getting the celery.

Hope you like the juice, though. :hi:
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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 08:45 AM
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17. To each his own, I certainly don't expect you take my word
:hi: I am happy to try alternative therapies - they work for me.
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DemExpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 05:37 AM
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15. Hepar Sulfaris knocked my migraines down cold
and very fast.

Good luck with the celery juice!

DemEx
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BuddhaGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 08:45 AM
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18. thanks!
n/t
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:31 AM
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19. Hope It Helps BG
So far I'm quite pleased with results - knock on wood :hi:

Still will order my expensive Frova just in case a big one comes or the celery stops working, which was the case with VitaminB2 & Magnesium - but I still take it.

Riboflavin (Vitamin B2). There is reasonable evidence on the benefits of vitamin B2 for migraine sufferers. In one study, patients who took 400 mg of vitamin B2 (riboflavin) reduced their migraine attacks by half, although the vitamin had no effect on the severity or duration of migraines that did occur. In another study, it helped increase the effectiveness of beta-blockers, drugs used to prevent migraines in some people. Vitamin B2 is generally safe, although some people taking high doses develop diarrhea.

Magnesium Supplements. Studies have reported a higher rate of magnesium deficiencies in some patients with migraine, such as those with menstrual migraines. Magnesium helps relax blood vessels. Some patients report relief from supplements.http://www.umm.edu/patiented/articles/what_lifestyle_alternative_measures_preventing_migraine_headaches_000097_10.htm

If you suffer from migraines, there is some good news for you. This good news comes in the form of riboflavin, otherwise known as Vitamin B2. Taking regular doses of Vitamin B2 is believed to reduce migraine episodes as well as lessen their occurrence.

Riboflavin

Riboflavin is just one of the eight B complex vitamins that are responsible for breaking down fats and proteins. B complex vitamins also help with the digestive system by providing good muscle tone, and aid in the overall good health of the eyes, skin, hair, liver and nervous system. Vitamin B2 is a water-soluble vitamin and plays a vital role in the conversion of carbohydrates into sugar for the body to burn and produce energy.

Lack of Vitamin B2

If we lack vitamin B2, we may experience headaches, vision problems, photophobia, tiredness, digestion problems and painful cracks in the mouth corners.

http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/191686/how_vitamin_b2_can_help_ease_migraines.html
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 06:55 AM
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16. If you ask for evidence in this forum, you're a paid big pharma shill.
That much has become patently obvious. How dare we!
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-23-08 10:41 AM
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20. People like their fantasies, I suppose.
:shrug:
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