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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:36 PM Original message |
St. John's Wort Relieves Symptoms Of Major Depression |
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TheDebbieDee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. I read articles on the internet about this same subject in 2000. |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. The 2000 (ish) study |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
2. I used it for a time but I think it just destabilized me and made me manic. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. That would suggest a bipolar disorder; the same kind of destabilization |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. At the time I was undiagnosed. The thing that finally made it clear was |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Mental illnesses are complex; people are complexer |
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GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Yeah, I would love to find complementary things to take. I tried the |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
4. No doubt Big Pharma will do thier best to undermine this. They make ALOT of $$ with their |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. ...albeit not covered by insurance. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. I had read about this recently. They are looking for people for studies using it. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 07:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I'm using it with patients, with pretty good results. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. You are treating patients with Major Depressive Disorder with St. John Wort by itself? |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. No, I was talking about CES. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Thanks for the explanation. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. But apparently "thier best" isn't good enough to stifle this little study, huh? |
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elfin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
8. I used it for a couple of months - |
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glinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-12-08 11:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. B12 Complex is safer |
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felinetta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
14. A real culprit - wheat and gluten |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #14 |
27. Yes, for some people. Food allergens in general. |
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badgerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 05:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. Um, people? |
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Hermes Daughter (84 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
17. You are right but... |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
18. Wow what a dishonest headline, that's simply inexcusable, someone should lose a job. |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Major Depressive Disorder can be classified as |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. So you would say a patient had Mild Major Depressive Disorder? |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Yes. That Dx is a common one. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. So the severity is just referring to the symptoms at the time of the exam? |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-14-08 10:14 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. I guess "mild" in this case means "mild as major depressions go," |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-15-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. People react differently to different medications and combinations of meds. |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
22. the time release version from natures sunshine was good n/t |
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2Design (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-13-08 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
23. 5-HTP from natures sunshine and complex B vitamins work better for the long haul n/t |
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