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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 09:13 AM
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The cholesterol myth and YOUR healthcare cost
http://cms.herbalgram.org/commissione/intro/ceherbsingermany.html#BM1_Scientific_Research_and_Medical_Use_

Physician Prescriptions and Reimbursement

All phytomedicines prescribed by a physician must be supplied by pharmacists. According to some estimates, in addition to the 25,000 doctors conducting a natural medical practice, up to 80 percent of German physicians (particularly general practitioners) routinely prescribe phytomedicines as part of clinical therapy (Gruenwald, 1995; Shilcher, 1998b). Prescribed phytomedicines are also known as "semi-ethical" drugs. In 1996 semi-ethical phytomedicine sales constituted 17 percent of total nonprescription drug sales in Germany and 54 percent of all nonprescription phytomedicines (see Table 7). According to the 5th Social Act, phytomedicines that conform to the Commission E positive monographs (approved) are financed by the national health insurance system (Schilcher, 1998c).

In some cases, phytomedicines are preferred to conventional drugs. For drugs prescribed for benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), for example, almost 90 percent are phytomedicines, owing mainly to their lower rates of adverse side effects. In the area of physician prescriptions of psychoactive herbal drugs (e.g., St. John's Wort and Kava Kava), the strong increase in medical use is not a result of increased demands from patients but more from "scientific assurances in the form of convincing clinical and pharmacological studies." (Schilcher, 1998b.)


Generic Atorvastatin... roughly one dollar a pill


As opposed to plant sterols and stanols and their effect on cholesterol levels
Vitamin Shoppe
Heart Choice Phytosterols
VS-1779
60 Softgels
OUR PRICE:
$7.99 <------ do the math

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.com/pdf%2F7808%2F7808r1.pdf <----- please do read entire paper

>>Foods with plant stanol or sterol esters lower serum cholesterol
levels.
We summarize the deliberations of 32 experts
on the efficacy and safety of sterols and stanols. A
meta-analysis of 41 trials showed that intake of 2 g/d of
stanols or sterols reduced low-density lipoprotein (LDL)
by 10%; higher intakes added little. Efficacy is similar for
sterols and stanols, but the food form may substantially
affect LDL reduction. Effects are additive with diet or
drug interventions: eating foods low in saturated fat and
cholesterol and high in stanols or sterols can reduce LDL
by 20%; adding sterols or stanols to statin medication is
more effective than doubling the statin dose.<<

>>CONCLUSIONS
Abundant evidence shows that consuming 2 g/d of sterols
and stanols lowers LDL levels by 10%, and based on epidemiological
data and trials with cholesterol-lowering drugs,
long-term use likely will lower CHD risk by 12% to 20% in
the first 5 years and by 20% over a lifetime. Safety testing
of sterols and stanols has exceeded that of ordinary foodstuffs
that are eaten widely and generally recognized as
safe. Adverse effects of the absorption of plant sterols into
the circulation appear largely hypothetical in adults.<<
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 09:40 AM
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1. How much do you get paid to advertise for the snake oil industry?
Sterols are present naturally in many fruits, vegetables, nuts, seeds, cereals, legumes, vegetable oils, and other plant sources.

There is no need to contribute your money to the multi billion dollar snake oil industry.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 11:18 AM
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6. Wow, you mean cholesterol-fighting chemicals were already in the foods...
that health scientists and doctors tell us we should eat more of?

Who woulda thunk it? I thought they were all trying to kill us with cancer!
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Liberal Veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 04:47 PM
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8. They aren't trying to kill us, they are trying to create a race of autistic slaves with vaccines!
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xenu loves you Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:33 PM
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12. Yeah, drugs and food are the same things...
Sounds like someone's been sipping at the well water too long:rofl:
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cosmik debris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 08:52 PM
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13. You didn't last very long this time
The Mods are all over your BS.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 10:24 AM
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2. Thanks for those articles.
Edited on Thu Nov-27-08 10:25 AM by tabatha
It is good to see that some doctors are understanding that natural is better.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 10:48 AM
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5. There is a book titled The Cholesterol Myth btw. n/t
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 10:45 AM
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3. German doctors are all woo woos.
No wonder Germans aren't nearly as healthy as we Americans are.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 10:47 AM
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4. They subsist on a diet of crunchy frogs.... minus the
firecrackers.
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 11:29 AM
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7. They take the bones out of them. It makes all the difference.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-27-08 11:27 PM
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9. Then what makes them crunchy?
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-28-08 11:10 AM
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10. They're not Crunchy if you take the bones out.
That's why the Germans are so fucked up.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-29-08 06:37 PM
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11. natural gas flame throwers/crispers
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-30-08 03:11 AM
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14. I take three drugs for my cholesterol.
All suggested by my Dr. They are Tri-Cor, Red Rice Yeast Extract and Omega 3 Fish Oil. Of course I didn't get to reasonable levels without the Tri-Cor.

David
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