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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:30 AM
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Healthcare for dunces
Not that I'm insinuating anyone here is a dunce, just sharing some info for anyone who might be confused. :hi:


Healthcare for dunces

Don't know your "single-payer" from the "trigger plan"? As Senate hearings begin, we explain the basics

By Gabriel Winant


July 13, 2009 | The first president to propose a healthcare overhaul was Harry Truman. When an issue is around that long, ideas for tackling it proliferate, and a lot of groups form to push those ideas. If the fight over healthcare has gotten to seem a little bewildering, this is a big part of why: People are desperate for a change to the status quo. Yet the healthcare system swats away presidents and outlives Congresses. A joke around Washington is that healthcare reform is similar to a cicada swarm. Like the locusts, every 17 years it emerges from dormancy, makes a bunch of noise and then dries up into a husk.

The unpleasant but clear truth is that our jury-rigged healthcare system, liked by few consumers, still isn't hurting for defenders. There are, obviously, the insurance companies that have built their fortunes on the present system, and the actual healthcare providers who benefit well enough too. But even something as innocuous as cracking down on waste, fraud and abuse is politically dangerous, because someone in the industry always stands to gain from a patient's wasted dollar. The trick, which reformers still haven't quite figured out, is how to craft a plan that forces the beneficiaries of the status quo to behave, but doesn't provoke them into fire-breathing attack mode.

With Senate hearings starting up again Monday, Salon has put together a guide to the various approaches, and who's pushing them.

Single-payer: Liberals have spent generations aching for a government-run healthcare system. It seems to work for Canada, so why not for us? People like Medicare well enough, after all, and Medicare is single-payer, just not for everybody. Rep. John Conyers has drafted a bill, going exactly nowhere, to institute a plan much like the Medicare for All plan featured in the campaign platform of Rep. Dennis Kucinich.

The fact is that despite the backing of groups like Physicians for a National Health Program, single-payer is not happening. Sen. Max Baucus, a major healthcare player as Finance Committee chairman, declared, "Everything is on the table with the single exception of single-payer." Barack Obama, an explicit advocate of single-payer as a younger politician, got at the problem during the presidential campaign, saying, "If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system."

He is, of course, not designing a system from scratch. Shaping his effort to pass healthcare reform has been Obama's political need to be able to tell voters, as he often does, "If you like your plan and you like your doctor, you won't have to do a thing." Regardless of the general merits of single-payer, the president would be denied this argument if he were pushing Medicare for All. With an issue as complicated as healthcare, it's generally thought that the public can't possibly understand the policy details. So regardless of what kind of system people might actually want if they only understood -- hard enough to discern anyway -- GOP shrieking about the president's desire for "socialized medicine" would actually be true, and possibly even convincing, if single-payer were on the table. And that, Obama and virtually every key mover in Washington seem to agree, would be fatal for reform.

The public option: In order to capture some of the benefits of single-payer while dodging the political costs, liberal would-be reformers have mainly settled on what's known as "the public option" idea. At its strongest, this would work as a kind of opt-in Medicare for All. It could pay at Medicare's rates and, like Medicare, deliver much more care for the dollar. Usually, this idea is coupled with a mandate that everyone have insurance of some kind (and subsidies for people at a certain level of poverty), so the government could offer insurance directly to people who don't like their plan, or don't have a plan at all, without incurring the wrath of voters happy with their insurance. One prominent scholar warns, though, that a public plan might become a dumping ground for the sick, while the private insurers skim the cream off the system by only having to insure the healthy.

A public option also has the benefit of forcing private insurers to compete with Medicare-level rates. This would either improve private care significantly, the logic goes, or possibly kill it outright if it can't compete for insurance-buyers, easing the country into single-payer gradually and of its own will.

That's why insurance companies are putting aside their differences to try to throttle this thing before it gets off the ground. Or at least soften it acceptably. A number of compromise-minded pundits and politicians have suggested that a public option is only tolerable if it can't use Medicare's heft to keep prices low, or rely on government subsidies to break even. A weak public plan like this would be mostly toothless -- basically, a kinder, friendlier insurance company -- and hence much less threatening to private insurance.

more...

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/07/13/healthcare_explainer/
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 09:59 AM
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1. Thank you
I could use this to 'enlighten' a friend. Her family is without heath care coverage and yet she's always against anything that would make her life better.

It's true, Americans have an uncanny knack for voting against their own best interests. And of course, she'll defend her Republicanism by saying... 'well what did you expect from "Salon!!" :grr:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:07 AM
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2. There's a graph at this link with Salon's Credibility Trend-
it's impressive and might help.

http://www.newscred.com/source/show/name/salon
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-13-09 10:22 AM
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3. I need all the help I can get
especially with this one. Why do I bother, I have health care coverage - such as it is, buy it's better than nothing. I can't figure this chick out for nuttin!
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lk9550 Donating Member (51 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-14-09 01:04 AM
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4. thanks man
And it's about time we had UHC here.
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