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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:46 PM
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Schoolgirl, 14, dies and three classmates taken ill after being given new cervical cancer vaccine
Source: Daily Mail (UK)

Some 2,118 teenage girls suffered side-effects from rashes to paralysis in the year since the vaccine was introduced in schools, according the Medicine and Healthcare Regulatory Agency.

Although the majority were mild, the reports include more serious conditions such as convulsions, heart palpitations and paralysis.

Around the world, Cervarix and another rival version, Gardasil, have been linked to 30 deaths as well as cases of Guillain- Barré syndrome - a little-understood malfunctioning of the immune system which can cause paralysis.

Last year the Daily Mail revealed that a girl had been paralysed with the rare Guillain Barre syndrome after having the Cervarix vaccine.
Ashleigh Cave collapsed shortly after having the jab, leaving her with no feeling from the waist down.

And in January 2008 two schoolgirls died after being given the rival Gardasil





Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1216714/Schoolgirl-14-dies-given-cervical-cancer-jab.html



Jackie Fletcher, of pressure group Jabs, said: ‘We must halt the vaccine programme immediately and not put further girls at risk before a thorough investigation is carried out.

‘We have heard from a large number of girls who have suffered adverse reactions from this vaccine. How many more severe adverse reactions do they need before they act? ‘We are vaccinating thousands of girls against a disease they may not be at risk from.

‘Instead of giving them vaccines, we should be promoting other measures they should be taking – such as not being promiscuous and using a condom. The age of cervical cancer screening tests needs to be lowered from 25.’

Not a pleasant decision for parents to have to make, if they know their daughters is in the vulnerable group.





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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:54 PM
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1. Why are you linking to a RW nazi-supporting tabloid that has been successfully sued for libel often?
You need to reconsider your choice of sources.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:57 PM
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3. you need
to back up your claims. Right wingers from UK I know are dems here
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:09 PM
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6. YOU obviously need to learn the history of The Daily Mail before posting.
The description I posted is common knowledge.
Common knowledge for those of us who have lived in the UK, as well as informed citizens elsewhere.
Google is your friend.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:50 PM
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14. blocking YOU
for screaming at me. My son lives in UK
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:02 PM
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15. So you should ask him about the Daily Mail, maybe he can enlighten you.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 12:03 AM
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20. let's be kind to each other
apologies if I said the wrong thing for you to yell... am having a very bad day and feeling rather fragile. Let's all be nice...
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:24 PM
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33. Deleted message
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:10 PM
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7. It's really not a secret....
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:15 PM
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8. not these ones nt
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:19 AM
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23. UK Conservative voters would range from Dems to RW Republicans...
it's a pretty big tent.

But the Daily Mail is *very* right wing, especially on social issues. They spread hate-filled propaganda against immigrants, asylum-seekers, Muslims, Gypsies, gays, single mothers, abortion, and anyone or anything who doesn't conform to a certain mythical stereotype of 1950s 'Little England'. They're not just moderate Conservatives. They sympathized with the fucking Nazis in the 1930s, and the basic tone of the journal hasn't changed as much as all that. They are also sensationalist and inaccurate on most issues and should *never* be relied on for info. They are like a cross between Rush Limbaugh's talk-show and the National Enquirer.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:55 PM
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18. Go to HPV.net. Click on HPV facts #9, and it opens up to much info.

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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:54 PM
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2. k&r
my Mom had guillian barre...no one should get this vaccine imo
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 05:59 PM
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4. Did your mom get it from this vaccine?
Every vaccine carries a risk

cervical cancer is also a risk

Hepatitis is a risk

mumps measules tetnus is a risk

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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:48 PM
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13. no..but wouldn't wish it on anyone
as my mom suffered so much. I was hospitalized for 3 months after reaction to polio vaccine 40 yrs ago...nearly died from kidney failure so perhaps I have a different take on vaccines. Not to mention my dog nearly dying as well from vaccine. risk indeed
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:15 PM
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9. What are you talking about?
The OP is not talking about the swine flu vaccine, the OP is talking about the cervical cancer vaccine

The guillian barre syndrome has been linked to the swine flu vaccine not the cervical cancer vaccine
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Fire_Medic_Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:39 PM
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17. It hasn't been linked to the current swine flu vaccine.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:59 AM
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22. It isn't the flu strain .. it's the adjuvant
Edited on Tue Sep-29-09 02:00 AM by Why Syzygy
It is the adjuvant, most notably squalene, which causes GBS. It's in many more vacs other than than the flu.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:09 PM
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32. Bullshit.
Squalene causes GBS? Our own bodies MAKE IT, for crying out loud. It is circulating in your bloodstream AT THIS VERY SECOND. So why don't we all have GBS?

Koresh, the idiocy spread by the anti-vaxers.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:31 PM
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31. The tiny risk of GB (which most people survive with no aftereffects)
is acceptable when weighed against the enormous risk of contracting the diseases that vaccines protect us against.

Unfortunately, we've had a couple of generations that have grown up without the experience of having classmates die from diseases we now prevent with a vaccine.

The cure for that kind of ignorance is education.
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:09 PM
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5. I read about this too.
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:44 PM
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12. CNN reports
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:16 PM
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10. 30 serious side effects out of HOW MANY MILLIONS OF DOSES GIVEN?
That is the number I want to see.

Anyone who thinks ANY pharmaceutical or biological is without risk of side effects is seriously deluded. We weigh the cost:benefit ratio before deciding to proceed with any medical care or preventive.
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cosmicone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 06:25 PM
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11. Junk Science and RW Propaganda
People need to understand the difference between "causation" and "correlation."

If 22 million people cross the street and 15 get a stroke while crossing, it doesn't mean crossing the street causes stroke.

Guillian-Barré syndrome is serious if not diagnosed but most patients of it recover fully without any residuals with proper care.


This article is put out there by people who are against teenage girls having sex -- period. The bible-thumping fundies who want all women to be virgins until enslaved by their masters -- I mean married.


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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 08:14 PM
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19. No it's not. But those well intentioned parents, who think their children are
going to be sexual active, get them innoculated. GB is a serious side effect for many people innoculated in the 70's with the H1N1 vaccination. It was so damaging H1N1 was put away-until now-when it is discovered that several virus samples went missing at a military lab. The bible thumpers are to smug to think there kids need this.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:29 AM
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25. Gardasil has nothing to do with the H1N1 vaccination, either the 1970s or current form
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:55 AM
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27.  It isn't the flu strain .. it's the adjuvant
It is the adjuvant, most notably squalene, which causes GBS. It's in many more vacs other than than the flu.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 07:46 PM
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34. Total bullshit. See post #32. n/t
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 06:27 AM
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24. Pretty much so - and in addition they are against anything supported or provided by New Labour...
because New Labour, you know, are raving commies and not nearly right-wing enough.

Some people here may assume that the Daily Mail and other tabloids are on 'our side' because they're against Blair et al. But it's because Blair et al are too *left*-wing.

As others say, correlation doesn't equal causation. I have met a 17-year-old girl who had been in a wheelchair for over a year with a mysterious and undiagnosed illness. I have an ex-student who was mysteriously ill for about 6 years (just recovering noticeably now) with a debilitating condition which made her dependent on others for most daily activities. If they'd had the Gardasil vaccine, I have no doubt that people here would attribute it to that; but in fact both cases occurred long before the Gardasil vaccine existed.

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-28-09 07:37 PM
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16. They are rushing these vaccines in and out of our families.
Edited on Mon Sep-28-09 07:44 PM by midnight
one of the HPV viruses can be spread without sexual contact. Also if you have the virus the vaccine will not help. But the insurance co. have created a policy stating if you have contracted the virus while not being vaccinated they will not treat. Damned if you do and Damned if you don't policy. Either way they are the winners.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:57 AM
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21. Is anyone keeping track
of the 100,000's of girls they vaccinated in Mexico?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 09:21 AM
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26. I need another source before I believe anything from the daily fail. nt
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 11:14 AM
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28. MSNBC is reporting it too.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 01:09 PM
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29. Actually, for once, this is confirmed by genuine news sources
It has also been reported by the Guardian, Times and Daily Telegraph. (Which at least does demonstrate that if news is genuine, you do not need to go to RW hate-sites for it. The Times and Torygraph may be conservative, but at least they are not hate-sites and usually do not make up their news.

Incidentally, it is not the Gardasil vaccine in this case, but another one, Cervarix. In any case, it is rightly being treated with concern, and a post-mortem is being done, and the vaccine batch recalled examined to see if there is something wrong with it.

Even if it is revealed to be linked to the vaccine, there have been 14 million people immunized in Britain, so it is safer than many other activities and products. Nonetheless, any death especially of a young person is tragic, and as much should be done as possible to prevent any deaths.

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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-29-09 02:27 PM
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30. Thanks for the update. nt
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:44 AM
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40. Oops,.just noticed a typo in my last post
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 09:44 AM by LeftishBrit
The number immunized was of cours 1.4 million not 14 million (we obviously don't even have 14 million girls in the relevant age group in the UK). Still a huge number; but important to keep things accurate, especially as the right-wing tabloids certainly don't.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 08:52 AM
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35. Evangelists for mass vaccination.... Surely no one would be so irresponsible,
Edited on Wed Sep-30-09 09:22 AM by Joe Chi Minh
simply to increase the profits made by Big Pharma?

"Evangelists for mass vaccination like to claim that these programmes are of universal benefit to public health. Indeed, so zealous is their enthusiasm for vaccines that, through a cocktail of scaremongering and propaganda, they attempt to suppress all debate. (Haven't notived that on DU, have you? MUCH!

(snip)

"The result is that people, especially parents, feel bullied or patronised if they dare to challenge the official drive to vaccinate against every possible risk of disease. Moreover, this climate of fear is ruthlessly exploited by the big pharmaceutical companies, which see vast profits in exaggerated health."

(snip)

"The tragic irony for Natalie was that the injection may have triggered a reaction far more lethal than any future, distant threat of a comparatively rare disease.

And this exposes a fundamental problem about the Government's growing obsession with vaccinating children and teenagers.

We have to be absolutely sure that the medical and political establishment's growing reliance on vaccines does not ultimately do more harm than good.

As a doctor, I have been concerned for some time about this issue. I should stress that I am not in any way opposed to vaccinations.

Indeed I run an immunisation clinic which offers a wide range of vaccines as a protection against various diseases. But I am increasingly disturbed by the lack of any debate either about long-term vaccine safety or about the excessive influence of commercial interests.

Contrary to what Government officials and pharmaceutical giants pretend, the health of future generations could be compromised if we are not allowed to question this official fixation with mass vaccination.

In the research for my recent book on this subject, I discovered that not only are inoculations being introduced with less and less research on their safety, but, just as worryingly, they are being promoted for diseases which do not represent a widespread danger to the public.

The cervical cancer jab that Natalie Morton was given shortly before she collapsed is a classic case in point.

For all the hysteria that the Government and big business generated in support of the vaccine programme for teenage girls, cervical cancer only comes in 19th place on the list of cancers that kill women in modern Britain.

In 2005, just 911 women died of the disease. Though every death was obviously a terrible blow to the victim's family and friends, this figure pales beside the 12,000 who died from lung cancer or the 11,000 who succumbed to breast cancer.

Indeed, cancers of the brain and the kidneys proved more deadly to women than those of the cervix, yet there is little publicity about these diseases. (Our "scientismificist" friends on here are so worried about the brain tumours caused by mobile phones, aren't they?)

"The fact is that the huge nationwide programme - which has already led to the vaccination of a large number of young women against cervical cancer - has partly been driven by naked commercial pressure.

For decades, vaccines were the Cinderella sector of the medical industry, neglected because there was little money in them.

But all that is changed. Vaccines are now the fastest growing part of the pharmaceutical business so the giants, such as GlaxoSmithKline and Merck, which manufacture the two leading anti-cervical cancer drugs, have a vested interest in deliberately whipping up public anxieties."

Read the full article in what some moron here called the equivalent of the Enquirer!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217057/Dr-Richard-Halvorsen-Im-opposed-jabs-worries.html

HE IS A DOCTOR WHO RUNS AN IMMUNISATION CLINIC, YOU KNAVES!


Also, Allison Pearson of the DAILY MAIL!!!!!

"Why did I trust doctors and let my girl have the jab? Schoolgirl Natalie Morton has died after being given the cervical cancer vaccine. For her family it is a tragedy. But we must remember 1.4 million girls have had the jab so far, most without any side-effects.
My daughter had the jab six months ago. The only problem she and her friends reported was feeling a bit dizzy.
What angers me is that, like other parents, I let my child have the vaccination in good faith.
I believed there was one tried-and-tested type available, and that’s what my daughter would get.
Yesterday, I was absolutely stunned to read that there are, in fact, TWO vaccines.
Most European countries use the more expensive Gardasil, which offers additional protection against sexually transmitted diseases.
Guess which country decided to go with the bargain-basement option?
Yup, our leaders, so lavish with their own expenses, appear to have chosen to save money on the health of young girls.
Cervarix was picked because it ‘offered best overall value for the NHS’.
I have no idea of the relative merits of the two vaccines.
I have to rely on the experts to guide me. But my Government won’t publish the assessments it made of the two HPV vaccines. Nor, according to Shadow Health Secretary Andrew Lansley, will it say why we use a different vaccine to other countries.
Why were we not told a deluxe version of the vaccine was available? Why has no one explained why our daughters need to have the jab three or four years before they become sexually active?
Is it because the campaign targets the lowest common denominator and makes the grim assumption that under-age sex is the norm?
This is precisely the kind of ignorance that causes mass panic. Why should a girl have to die to bring the debate into the open?"

Oooooh! Mustn't have open debate. It was advocated in the DAILY MAIL by a doctor working at an immunisation clinic.


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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 09:27 AM
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36. Evangelists for the Daily Mail - Surely no one would be so irresponsible...
simply to increase the profits of right-wing hate-merchants?

Ignoring the source for the moment: ANYTHING is a cost/risk analysis. Getting vaccines isn't simply done to increase the profits of the Pharma industry. It is done to prevent diseases. Everything has side effects. Some people may prefer the risk of the disease to the risk of the side effects. The same goes for other things. Most people will choose the (much more substantial) risks of driving in order to be able to function optimally in a long-distance society. Some don't. Most people will choose vaccination, even if they know there are possible dangers, because they fear the actual diseases more. Some don't - either because they are greater risk for the vaccination than most people, or because they fear it more. Fine; that is their choice or their need. But that doesn't mean that vaccinations are just some sort of evil racket.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 10:40 AM
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37. And see, that's the thing.
To those who oppose or are afraid of vaccination, anything other than 100% efficacy with 0% side effects only supports the outlandish conspiracy theories that big pharma invented vaccines solely to kill us and make money. I am not sure why they don't apply the same standards to other medical treatments, such as aspirin, which kills a thousand people a year in the US alone.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 03:41 PM
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38. This vaccine is only effective for FIVE years..
If a girl gets the first one at age 15, and continues to get them throughout her reproductive years (or the rest of her life?), she will have up to TEN vaccines. Every FIVE years.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-30-09 04:34 PM
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 09:11 AM
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49. You are an idiot.
You have no excuse - you live in the UK and you still defend the Hate Mail?

I think you're on the wrong board - there's a welcome waiting for you over on the Mail's comments section, maybe they'd make you a moderator if you display all the right prejudices. I'm sure you'll have no problem doing that.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 10:19 AM
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41. UPDATE: Vaccine unlikely to have caused death
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33070294/ns/health-kids_and_parenting/
LONDON - A British health official said Tuesday that the sudden death of 14-year-old girl was very unlikely to have been caused by the vaccine she was given hours before she died.

Natalie Morton, who died in a hospital Monday only hours after being the given the Cervarix vaccine, which protects against the virus that causes cervical cancer, had a "serious underlying medical condition which was likely to have caused death," according to Caron Grainger, the director for public health at Coventry City Council, the English city where the girl went to school.

"We are awaiting further test results which will take some time," Grainger said in a statement. "However, indications are that it was most unlikely that the ... vaccination was the cause of death."
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 10:20 AM
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42. FURTHER UPDATE: Natalie Morton died from large chest tumour
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article6856774.ece
Natalie Morton, the schoolgirl who died after receiving a vaccine as part of a national immunisation campaign, died from a large malignant tumour in her chest.

Her sudden death was unconnected with her cervical cancer jab, an inquest in Coventry was told today.

A spokesman for NHS Coventry said that a preliminary hearing was held this morning at Coventry Magistrate’s Court as part of the inquest into the schoolgirl’s death.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 12:28 PM
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43. Kick for exposure...
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 12:30 PM by SidDithers
'cause the follow up never gets as much "air time" as the sensationalized, and wildly incorrect, original post.

Sid

Edit: in fact, you may want to consider posting this on its own.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 01:56 PM
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45. Hmm, good point.
Will do.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 01:11 PM
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44. Tragic. What is really horrifying is that she was apparently undiagnosed till too late
In fact, if she were in such a serious condition, she probably should not have had a vaccine at that point; but it's unlikely that anything could have prevented her death. A 'large malignant tumour in the chest' is usually fatal.

RIP.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 04:17 PM
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46. Thank you for posting this, she DIED FROM A TUMOR, NOT any vaccine
sorry for yelling
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 11:54 AM
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47. kick
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ki83760 Donating Member (50 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 10:53 PM
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48. horrifying
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