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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 05:35 AM
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DNA and emotions and you
Book: The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce

From the chapter "The Energetic Engine of Evolution" by Wynn Free with David Wilcock, page 375,

"This experiment is important for several reasons. First of all, it gives a solid connection between love and torsion waves, showing that love is the primary emotional/energetic that forms the DNA and is causing evolution to occur. Secondly, it is only when DNA unwinds that messenger RNA is capable of accessing its codes to provide for the healing of the body. So, when a person feels anger, stress, sadness, boredom and depression, their DNA remains tightly braided, and the body cannot access the information that is necessary for it to heal itself. When a person feels love, compassion, and gratitude their body can then heal in a natural fashion. The Edgar Cayce readings always said that health problems began as a spiritual issue long before they became physical issues, and that no physical healing could occur if the spiritual/psychological issues were not addressed at the same time."
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 06:03 AM
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1. post more details?
can you post more? What experiment, for instance?

sounds promising.

And, how about love and the eleven dimensions now accepted by some in hard physics?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 06:57 PM
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5. More details will be the preceding paragraph, the naysayers may
breeze on by to another thread altogether.

Page 374, The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce:

Loving Energy Expands the DNA Molecule

"The last DNA-related scientific evidence that I will present at this time comes from Dr. Glen Rein.(32) In this case, undifferentiated cells were extracted from a human placenta and placed into tubes. Then these tubes were given to people trained in producing strong, accurate human emotions. If such a person wants to feel anger, for example, then they do not just "pretent" to be angry -- they have all the physiological responses that a person in rage normally would. If the person wants to be sad, then they will literally break down crying. If the person wants to feel love and compassion, then it is just as genuine as that which can be felt between a mother and a newborn child.

After these different emotions had been strongly experienced by the test participants, the DNA that they had been holding in the tubes was analyzed. Dr. Rein found that when the people felt anger or other negative emotions, the DNA contracted and knotted up like a braid of hair. However, when the people felt love, gratitude, and compassion, the DNA would unwind."
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pecwae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 07:12 AM
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2. Thanks!
I intend to buy this book.
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GeorgeGist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 07:32 AM
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3. Good one ....
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-09-06 09:41 AM
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4. Anything that has the name "Cayce" attached to it
starts off in a HUGE hole. Maybe if he had actually been right with his predictions his devoted followers would be taken a little more seriously than LaRouche-ites.
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beam me up scottie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 12:45 AM
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6. David?
This is Edgar's mother channeling through BMUS.

Stop pimping my dead son!!!

The fact that he didn't come back in 1998 like he promised doesn't give you the right to pretend you are him.

He's always been late, that boy...

Besides, Sylvia said you were a fake and that's all we really need to know.

:rofl:
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salvorhardin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 02:00 AM
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7. What complete and utter bullshit
The Edgar Cayce readings always said that health problems began as a spiritual issue long before they became physical issues, and that no physical healing could occur if the spiritual/psychological issues were not addressed at the same time."


So, Wynn Free with David Wilcock would tell a cancer victim that the reason they have cancer is because they're somehow spiritually deficient? How about a guy who just got paralyzed by a malfunctioning fork lift dropping a 1 ton pallet on him? Are his health problems due to a sickness of his soul? Or that bright young girl who suffers severe and profound brain injury after being hit by a drunk driver? The fact that she can no longer remember how to tie her shoes, much less who she is, is that because she has a rotten spirit? Oh, and is that kid with cerebral palsy just spiritually weak?

What a load of bullcrap. These authors are no better than Pat Robertson telling somebody that they have leukemia because they displeased Pat's masochistic god.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 05:20 AM
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8. It all depends on your perception I imagine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma

Western interpretation

An academic and religious definition was mentioned above. Millions of people believe in it and is a part of many cultures and the psyches of millions of people. Others without religious backgrounds, especially in western cultures or with Christian upbringings, become convinced of the existence of Karma. For some, karma is a more reasonable concept than eternal damnation for the wicked. Spirituality or a belief that virtue is rewarded and sin creates suffering eventually leads to a belief in Karma.

According to Karma, performance of positive action results with the reaction of a good conditioning in one's experience, whereas a negative action results in a reaction of a bad response. This may be an immediate result following the act, or a delayed result occurring either in the present life or the next. Thus, meritorious acts may create rebirth into a higher station, such as a superior human being or a godlike being, while evil acts result in rebirth as a human living in less desirable circumstances, or as a lower animal. Some observers have compared the action of karma to Western notions of sin and judgment by God or gods, while others understand karma as an inherent principle of the universe without the intervention of any supernatural Being. In Hinduism, God does play a role and is seen as a dispenser of karma; see Karma in Hinduism for more details. The latter understanding is accurate with regard to Buddhism and Jainism.

Most teachings say that for common mortals, having an involvement with Karma is an unavoidable part of day-to-day living. However, in light of the Hindu philosophical school of Vedanta, as well as Gautama Buddha's teachings, one is advised to either avoid, control or become mindful of the effects of desires and aversions as a way to moderate or change one's karma (or, more accurately, one's karmic results).

Some people have problems with the teaching on karma, often of what exactly the Buddha is asking them to believe in when asking them to have conviction in karma.

* First, action really is happening -- it's not an illusion.
* Second, you really are responsible for your actions. There's no outside force like the stars or some good or evil being acting through you. When you're conscious, you're the one who decides what to do.
* Third, your actions have results -- you're not just writing on the water -- and those results can be good or bad depending on the quality of the intention behind the act.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 08:26 PM
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12. How is that fundamentally any different than Calvinism?
If bad things happen, it's because you're bad and God doesn't like you.

If good things happen, it's because you're good and God DOES like you.

Just substitute "karma" for "God" - any compassionate human being should find both equally offensive.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 09:19 AM
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9. People actually believe that crap?
"So, when a person feels anger, stress, sadness, boredom and depression, their DNA remains tightly braided, and the body cannot access the information that is necessary for it to heal itself. When a person feels love, compassion, and gratitude their body can then heal in a natural fashion."

Well, if 31% of Americans believe Bush is doing a good job, then I suppose there are a small number of morons who will actually believe something as patently ridiculous as "torsion waves" and emotions based on "braided" DNA.

Fucking morons are everywhere.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-10-06 07:10 PM
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10. Morons are everywhere.... molecules of emotion are
posessed by morons and non-morons equally.


http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Regular/butlin35.htm

The white cells of the immune system also secrete endorphins and stress hormones made by the pituitary gland. This links the immune system with the brain and the endocrine system. An example of this communication network can be seen in the intestinal tract, which contains nerve, endocrine and immune cells and a density of receptors. This provides an explanation as to why our emotions are often described as "gut feelings". Studies have also shown that anger and excitement increase gut motility while contentment decreases it. Viruses use the same receptors as the molecules of emotion and therefore the state of our emotions will affect whether or not we succumb to viral infections.

Stress affects the body by releasing hormones, adrenaline and corticosterone from the brain and the immune system. Once in a stressed state the body itself can continue the stress cycle by the continuous activation of corticosterone. Depressed and traumatised people have high levels of corticosterone and often have a decreased level of immunity. This physiological state can be deactivated when the trauma and stress are released.
The key to relieving trauma and stress is to express feelings and to let them go, which Buddhists refer to as "non-attachment to experience". This is where the importance of the healing arts lie, as they can access the psychosomatic network, through counselling, hypnotherapy, hands on and energy therapies, biofeedback techniques, meditation and many others. When the emotions are moving, and the chemicals in the body are flowing, a state of wellness can be achieved, along with feelings of freedom, hopefulness and joy.

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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-15-06 07:19 PM
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11. What a bunch of BS.
Emotions have nothing to do with whether DNA is in a coiled (heterochromatin) or uncoiled (euchromatin) state. The heterochromatin state is mostly for repressing selfish bits of junk DNA and for cell specialization (genes for brain cell function will be heterocrhomatized and therfore deactivated in a skin cell, for example). This guy doesn't even know the very basics of the molecular biology of DNA.

If this country had good science education less people would fall for this shit.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:16 AM
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13. I always hated Cayce and his emotional issues predating health issues
garbage because it suggested a little too much blaming the victim. Sometimes we JUST GET SICK, Edgar, and can't control any part of it.

I know. I got arthritis when I was fourteen. I doubt I had any conscious or unconscious ambition to get it, I just DID. I didn't want it then, I don't want it now, I don't enjoy it and I would be delighted if it just went away.

It's like trying to blame a rape victim for wearing a skirt, walking from her car in a parking lot alone, having breasts.

Also, the condition of one's DNA and the gross gene structure described above is mostly determined by the state a cell is in during it's reproductive cycle, not emotional baggage.
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