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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:24 AM
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Forever Pregnant
:wtf:

New federal guidelines ask all females capable of conceiving a baby to treat themselves -- and to be treated by the health care system -- as pre-pregnant, regardless of whether they plan to get pregnant anytime soon.

Among other things, this means all women between first menstrual period and menopause should take folic acid supplements, refrain from smoking, maintain a healthy weight and keep chronic conditions such as asthma and diabetes under control.

While most of these recommendations are well known to women who are pregnant or seeking to get pregnant, experts say it's important that women follow this advice throughout their reproductive lives, because about half of pregnancies are unplanned and so much damage can be done to a fetus between conception and the time the pregnancy is confirmed.

The recommendations aim to "increase public awareness of the importance of preconception health" and emphasize the "importance of managing risk factors prior to pregnancy," said Samuel Posner, co-author of the guidelines and associate director for science in the division of reproductive health at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), which issued the report.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/15/AR2006051500875.html

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:28 AM
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1. Excuse me, I'm stuck where I just hit the ceiling!! Shades of the
'Handmaid's Tale"!! I want these idiots gone away from here!
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:29 PM
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21. slavery returns
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:30 AM
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2. "...and to be treated by the health care system- -"
What health care system? :shrug:
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:33 AM
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6. No shit
They're doing this supposedly to improve the U.S.'s abysmal infant mortality rate. Why not make sure pregnant women can access prenatal care as well as deal with long-term illnesses like diabetes and addiction? That in and of itself would deal with a huge chunk of infant mortality cases.

Oh wait, making sure ALL your citizens have health care? That's what those commie pinkos in Europe do.

:eyes:
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:30 AM
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3. Crazy. nt
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TAPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:31 AM
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4. Boy, I have a stream of expletives
that would make a sailor blush... I'll settle for my old standby: OH PISS OFF! :grr:
What are we? Just a bunch of bleeding vessels? Jeeezzzz...
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:33 AM
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5. This applies to men and women. Why make these advice for women
Edited on Tue May-16-06 08:36 AM by Mass
who could be pregnant only?

The pro-life lobby is getting more and more present everyday.

There is a reason why infantile death rate is much higher here: people cannot pay for it.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:15 AM
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11. I always wondered about that
Particularly with laws that mandate the arrest of a woman who uses drugs during pregnancy. I knew a faculty member once whose son was born deaf, with physical deformities, and who will be mentally about 4 years old forever because of bad sperm caused by his drug use. Yet the prolifers aren't out there trying to have them arrested and their children put in foster care.
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:36 AM
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7. Barefoot & pregnant, seen but not heard.

I lived during the best time of our country. This story is tragic.
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jojo54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:36 AM
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8. Tin foil hat theory.......
I know this is from WaPo but why do I get an odd vision of women birthing an army? Why do I get a nagging feeling that this is a story put out by the CDC, secretly demanded by the administration? Is it because my mind is so numbed to any truth that may be reported in good conscience?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:15 PM
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17. Not so tinfoil...
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 08:52 AM
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9. Two words: Environmental Toxins
Edited on Tue May-16-06 08:52 AM by IanDB1
You want to decrease infant mortality?

Clean-up the environment.
Provide Universal Health Care.
House the Homeless.
Feed the hungry.

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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:02 AM
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10. drug & alcohol treatment for all who ask. That would help. Also:
ACCESS TO BIRTH CONTROL.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 09:19 AM
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12. Ain't that the truth?
:applause:
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:56 PM
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23. "federal guidelines"?
If they were concerned they would label tuna and other stuff.

Stop the sales of various chemicals, implement the environmental regulations, etc.

Oh yeah- and make the recommendations for everyone. How odd that is - as if only the pre-pregnant women are going to be toxin, etc. free and the rest of the country is going to be swimming in it.

They better start worrying about Depleted Uranium - I understand that is esp. bad for men to be exposed to - and for their children.


Federal guidelines. Sheesh. If only they were concerned.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:17 PM
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24. Toxins [that includes alcohol!] in men affect children too! nt
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 11:03 AM
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13. The Administration is missing an opportunity for healthcare reform
Edited on Tue May-16-06 11:09 AM by Orrex
This "pre-pregnant" policy is a great idea, but it's just the tip of the iceberg. If they'd simply declare us all "pre-dead," then they can abandon all that wasteful healthcare stuff altogether. No more wasteful funding of drug or stem cell research. Just think of how much money we could devote to sowing the seeds of Freedom and Democracy abroad while building non-rascist Mexican-proof walls in our own fine nation.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 12:05 PM
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14. gonna piss off the smoking industry
"There isn't enough evidence to suggest that smoking is harmful . . ."
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 02:54 PM
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15. As was stated earlier..WHERE ARE THE RULES FOR THE MEN??!!!
Defective sperm are just as bad as egg and/or uterine irregularities.
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SupplyConcerns Donating Member (305 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:52 PM
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22. Frankly that's not a true statement
If I'm drinking while I get someone pregnant and for 9 months afterwards, it won't have the same effect as if she's drinking and doe for 9 months afterwards. Let's not turn into anti-scientific phonies.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 06:19 PM
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25. But male health DOES affect babies.
you are arguing 'degree' of effect.

I remember men working around batteries were likely to have underweight babies, etc.

There are all sorts of correlations, not as strong as women's, but they're there.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 03:15 PM
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16. Note I sent to the author of this article...
Ms Payne:
Are you going to do a piece about Pre-fertilzation care for men?
Aren't healthy sperm as important to the health of a baby as the environment supplied by the mother?

This article also needed to highlight the lack of universal health care in this country. Those other industrialized countries that have lower infant mortality rates all have universal health care.

Looking foreward to seeing these points covered in your next article on this subject.

Sincerely,
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:57 PM
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19. EXCELLENT!!!
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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Lisa0825 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 04:53 PM
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18. Salon on this article:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-16-06 05:10 PM
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20. Thanks for this link.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 12:39 AM
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26. Women are nothing but brood mares
And should spend their entire menstruating lives behaving as such.

Men, on the other hand, get to live life as they choose apparently, as always.
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alphafemale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-17-06 11:18 PM
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27. So...are women now going to have no access to most RX?
Until they prove themselves NOT pregnant?

Bat shit crazy.
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