I was simply pointing out that bubbling ozone through water creates a percentage of the resulting water to include some unknown amount of H2O2 molecules. Presumably this bubbling technique creates increasing levels of H2O2 as: time of bubbling increases, the designed ratio of ozone bubble surface area to water surface area increases, the purity or relative concentrations of the ozone in the gas bubbled through the pure water increases, and/or the generalized efficiency of the entire apparatus increases.
This reply has grown long, but I swear, I do mention how I've used hydrogen peroxide below at least one more time.
But what's with the malicious question and false allusion,
"Perhaps your ignorance of medical science and devout belief in altie dogma could be a side effect of drinking hydrogen peroxide" ' beam me up scottie'? True skeptics would be advised to avoid such needless and unfounded false allusions, of course, the flip side of such words are that you could be writing of your own devout belief and ignorance, perhaps not even consciously realizing it, and then consciously projecting that attribute to my words. IOW, you could be seeing in my words reflections of your own un- or sub-conscious beliefs and/or desires. Perhaps if you refuse to see that aspect of yourself, you ascribe your conscious self-perception to others.
Here are some alleged words of
Foucault's, a philosopher who dealt in some medical issues, emphasis added by me:
the major enemy, the strategic adversary is fascism. . . . And not only historical fascism . . . but also the fascism in us all, in our heads and in our everyday behavior, the fascism that causes us to love power, to desire the very thing that dominates and exploits us.
Anyway, back to Beck's ozonated water:
I find the idea of boosting oxygen levels intellectually curious given the relative decreasing oxygen percentages in the atmosphere versus times long since gone. Since the beginning of the industrial era, we're told the CO2 percentage in the air has greatly increased: implicit in this is the coincident relative percentage decrease of other gasses such as oxygen that would occur in any fixed volume of atmospheric gas of constant and fixed pressure, this relates to relative concentrations in contact with a typical body's skin at any given moment. I'm sure I've read that with some of the so-called 'anti-biotic resistant' flesh-eating bacteria, some conventional doctors have successfully used hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
I'm certain I've also read that hyperbaric treatments in general affect blood gases in known ways.
So it appears to me there's a logical pattern in the concept of increasing oxygen for certain conditions. Whether drinking extremely dilute oral hydrogen peroxide or ozonated water results in higher blood levels of oxygen is a curious topic for research, right now the only online reference I can find is a 1958 rat study that suggests it doesn't, but the study stops short of stating that as a fact.
I believe the larger issue that you raise with your words " devout belief in altie dogma" and with respect toward alternative medical practitioners versus conventional medical practitioners is the unknown number of chronically ill consumers that may wish to try some of these techniques of enriching their blood with somewhat higher levels of oxygen and how they will likely run into one objection after another obfuscation when going to the conventional practitioner, each time spending an office visit fee for what may be lack of success in their desired treatment protocol, while the carefully selected alternative practitioner may be more open to the consumer's demand for particular healthcare services. Heck, that consumer may even be accused of being a "devout believer" by the conventional practitioner.
Too often conventional doctors fight the treatment wishes of their patients, this I know from years of personal experience as well as reading some experiences of others. One tactic that is used is demanding an office visit fee to get a simple yes or no question regarding a desired treatment protocol answered by a physician the customer hasn't seen before. When attempting this in decades past, I've been accused of all sorts of things by office receptionists, including one chiding that I was really a sales person with an unstated agenda, and another common question in response to my questions was for "which journal" was I working.
Needless to say, while I still didn't get my question answered in those cases, I clearly learned of those offices' uncooperative attitudes toward medical consumers, and the owners of those particular professional corporations didn't get one dime of my money.
Recently, I needed a small growth removed from my skin, the dermatologist I chose was local. Two weeks later when I had the stitches removed, I had a growth of whitish/yellow slough in the wound, which had grown in size, and I asked for a debriding ointment, but the request was quietly refused. He said to use
Hydrogen Peroxide and he did prescribe an antibiotic ointment, which I used, but which didn't seem to help. My own research indicates that it's well enough known that slough in a wound tends to prevent healing.
A
debriding ointment dissolves unhealthy tissues through enzymatic action.
I guess he figured I would come back to him again and again, kaching--$$$--kaching.
I was sorry I didn't drive 65 miles to a competent clinic with a competent staff of dermatologists that past experience has shown uses a different surgical and stitching technique. Obtaining full-disclosure of surgical techniques in advance from a typical physician's office is practically futile unless they're specifically advertising their special technique.
After that second office visit, I ended up making my own debriding ointment from papain and bromelain; unfortunately, researching how to make this ointment required some time, then I needed to acquire the active ingredients by traveling, wasting gas, etc. I would have
much preferred to have been able to buy a similar acting ointment over the counter at the drug store, but nope, they seemed to be prescription only.
Another money enhancing legal barrier to the economic benefit of some prescription writers who are mainly attempting to pay for their MacMansions and SUVs instead of primarily
caring for their patients above all else.
Within one day of application of the homemade ointment, the small amount of slough was dissolved, and the wound started healing rather quickly. Regarding the refusal to prescribe me a professionally compounded debriding ointment, I can only presume the local yokel was listening to research-based advice (EBM) regarding
average percentages of people with wounds not helped by such ointments, likely similar to such studies that I ran across when researching how to go about making such an ointment, rather than listening to the customer who already knew a lot about their own body's healing responses to certain types of similar past injuries (experience).
He did seem to be advertising Botulinum (BOTOX) injections in the examination room, though. Maybe that's what he was really good at. $$$.
While the above is a relatively recent personal incident in the last few years, this was before I had built an electronic circuit to frequency/electrically treat a skin area (that was just in the last few months, BTW). Had I had the device several years earlier when the above incident occurred, it would have been interesting to see what happened had I used it instead of the homemade bromelian/papain ointment. Maybe it would have worked just as well provided that I had used the
correct polarity. There was no 'medical emergency' in process, I just don't like open wounds that don't heal. But heck, I'm sure I probably could have found a special wound healing clinic to pay even more money to, since this 'dermatologist' was evidently ignorant of the appearance of what slough on skin tissue looks like, and uncooperative with a customer to boot.
About that "ignorance of medical science and devout belief in altie dogma": I'm awaiting my first book on the subject titled
Clinical Electrotherapy, that title was recommended to all members of a listserv I'm a member of. I believe the similarity of the concept of the book's title to Beck's blood electrifier circuit and treatment protocol is self-evident. While I have no desire to become a physical therapist (apparent target market for the book) at this late season of my life, perhaps I'll be able to cull a single fact, maybe two if I'm lucky, from it. If it's full of useful and practical information regarding electrical safety issues and waveform shapes with relation to human electrotherapy treatment, I'll be ecstatic and exceedingly lucky given the poor state of book publishing today.
But perhaps, beam me up scottie, you'd even consider the entire physical therapy field to be one of those "altie dogma" disciplines deserving of disparagement.
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