In the state of Texas, a Physician can issue a DNR, "Do Not Resuscitate", W/O...

[webDude]

...The family's consent, at least if the patient has not issued a directive. This is per the nursing supervisor. I could not believe this. My Mother is in the hospital, we were discussing DNR's and this came up. Talk about death panels.

[sandnsea]

1. Texas has real death panels, Futile Care Law

It was written with the help of the right to life groups in Texas. Hospital ethics panels can decide when to pull the plug. The same time Terri Schiavo died, the doctors pulled the plug on a baby in Texas and there wasn't a peep about it. Blows my mind how the right gets away with this shit.

http://www.oliverwillis.com/2009/08/23/texas-futile-care-law-death-panels-signed-into-law-by-bush/

[webDude]

4. ??! By the right to life group? My God, this does get more bizzare.

Many thanks for all the posts.

[47of74]

6. And not a people out of the Christian Taliban over that Texas case

None. Zip. Nada. They were too busy getting their soiled undergarments in a wad over Terri Schiavo because they thought it would get them votes.

[tblue37]

9. Peep? nt

[rfranklin]

7. Well, when it comes to saving a few bucks, DNR is okay...

It overrides all moral objections.

[tiptoe]

10. "...how the right gets away with this shit"

For elections (incl ballot issues, based on a recent CA example) see here, scroll down and click the link for 'Proposition' in the Within Precinct Discrepancy section subtitle "Voting Booth to Exit Poll Interview to (secret) Counting of Candidate & Proposition Votes"

The Texas law may not have originated from a ballot proposition, but re 'how the right gets away with this shit' in the case of candidates (and likely, too, with selective propositions, as per recent CA example), simple accounting evidence of vote-count results from 238 state elections between 1988 and 2004 shifting away from exit poll results near exclusively in favor of the "GOP" (now radical-controlled) overwhelmingly convinces "It's not the exit polls, stupid!". Election fraud is 'how the right gets away with this shit', "defeating" popular candidates and "(s)electing" candidates with non-traditional GOP principles/priorities/tactics (...which trend, btw, caused Susan Eisenhower to announce her de-registration from her "hijacked" party and support of Obama in 2008 — see "GOP" link. 344,000 other Republicans -- i.e. known, from data of just 28 states, between 2006 and 2008 -- also changed parties). Likely, too, ballot propositions have been fraudulently defeated or passed by manipulation of vote-counts (not by majority will).

 

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[Chemisse]

12. I remember that! And thinking how very ironic it was

[secondwind]

2. Good ole Texas.....crisp, cost-efficient, no lingering in a nursing home for them!

[webDude]

3. Normally, I jump on Texas bashing. However, I would like to know if we are...

...the only state. Really gets close to the "put them out on an ice floe" stage.

Anyone knowledgeable about this?

[sandnsea]

5. Oh yes, the only state

Passed back when George Bush was Governor.

[Ian David]

8. George W. Bush's Texas Futile Care Law

Texas Futile Care Law

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.democraticunderground.com+texas+futile+care+law&sourceid=navclient-ff&rlz=1B3GGGL_enUS334US334&ie=UTF-8&hl=en

[14thColony]

11. So when Rep. Alan Grayson said

the GOP plan is "if you get sick, die quickly," he should have said "...if you get sick, the GOP will help you die quickly, whether you like it or not."

And WE are supposed to be the ones convening death panels?!

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

13. sometimes

a DNR is a kind thing in some cases, where using extraordinary measures would extend suffering but not result in good outcome for the patient.

But if there is a directive, or a caring family member or health care power of attorney
involved, then I can't see how the hospital can ignore their wishes.

A rescucitation can be a violent experience and a weak sick elderly person who has alot of health problems or injuries may suffer more as a result.

I was health care power of attorney for my mother, so I and my siblings were involved in decisions regarding our mother.

My friend's Mom didn't have a directive and none were granted health care power of attorney by deed, so the hospital asked the eldest child to provide decision on their Mom's treatment.