Pyramid found - in the heart of Bosnia!!

[emad]

Near the city of Visoko, 30 km north of Sarajevo, there is a stone pyramid of monumental size, claims the Bosnian archeologist Semir Osmanagiæ, who lives and works in the USA.

After several months of geological and archeological research, Mr. Osmanagiæ concluded that under the present hill of Visoèica hides a stairs-like pyramid, about 12,000 years old. Osmanagiæ, who intensively researched on pyramids in Americas, Asia and Africa for the last 15 years and wrote several books on the subject, says he's quite sure he found the first pyramid in Europe, which is quite similar to ones in the Southern America.

He believes that the project would completely change Bosnia's significance in the world of archeology.

On the top of "Bosnian pyramid of Sun" was a temple, built by pre-Illyrians, people who lived, according to Osmanagiæ, 27,000 years ago.

http://dino.avdibeg.dk/blog/2005/10/pyramid-found-in-heart-of-bosnia.html

[hippiechick]

1. 27,000 YEARS ago ???

:wow: :wow: :wow:

[HereSince1628]

7. Really, that would reset the clock on civilization.

Makes me doubtful of the claim.

[hippiechick]

10. ... you're being sarcastic, right ?

'doubtful of the claim' ?

How about being doubtful of mainstream archaeological academia that's been trying to feed us all a standard BS line for the last 100 years ?

:shrug:

[HereSince1628]

11. Oh, sorry, it is proof aliens deposited civilization on earth

:ROF:

[hippiechick]

15. Nice of you to be an open-minded intellectual ...

:eyes: Don't believe your eyes or any new evidence, believe some crusty old 'science' book probably written by some second-class instructor in 40-50 years ago ...

No, let's not question accepted paradigms ... I mean, really, the world really IS flat. They proved that, right ??

[HereSince1628]

16. Yeah, I know, I should show more tolerance

:rofl:

The war on science is such a laugh

[Media_Lies_Daily]

45. I guess it pisses you off to know that humans have been civilized....

...long before 1628.

[Brotherjohn]

18. To be an intellectual isn't to be open-minded. It is to be skeptical.

For this guy's theories to become accepted, they have to undergo the rigors of peer-review and the scientific method.

That's not to say there aren't paradigms that could stand with a little more questioning in the world of science. But by and large, that's what peer review and the scientific method do. Trust me, I'm a scientist who has published in peer-reviewed journals, and the reviews can be ruthless. But if you've got all your t's crossed and i's dotted, you get published.

Also by and large, modern academia and science (and yes, archaeology) have made more progress in figuring out how things work and how things happened than anything else we have tried. The track record is, frankly, pretty good.

[emad]

19. The recent Bulgarian gold finds carbon-dated some artefacts to

around 10,000 years ago.

While carbon dating has its critics, the samples that were investigated were pretty unique and corresponded favorably to antiquities from Asia minor that were tested in similar ways.

[greyl]

40. ? I say it's at least both. nt

[greyl]

37. What's 17,000 years out of 3 million? ;)

Why would a temple or altar mean that those who built it were also civilized?

[goclark]

2. Beautiful!

[gordianot]

3. Wow!!!!!!

[ET Awful]

4. Impossible, everybody knows the world is only 6,000 years old

:)

[smirkymonkey]

42. "God put that pyramid there to test our faith"!

:evilgrin:

[TallahasseeGrannie]

5. It looks so obvious

I don't understand how they just noticed it!

[tabasco]

8. It looks like the end of a lot of ridgelines around my parts.

This is absolutely amazing, if correct!!

Good work, Professor! :yourock:

[Bernardo de La Paz]

13. Start digging. You too can make an archaeological discovery.

[tabasco]

21. Great idea! I think this might be a sphinx or something!!

[Ready4Change]

20. I agree. I want more proof.

More than one guys statement. It would be very cool if there is a pyramid under there. Really cool even if it's just a sculpted mountainside. Astounding if its 27,000 years old.

But if any of that's true, there needs to be more proof.

[The Backlash Cometh]

6. How can this architectual knowledge be understood on 3 separate

continents? They didn't even have snail mail back then.

[Nihil]

22. How much "architecture" is there in common?

Isn't it more a case of "geometry"?

The pyramid is the most stable shape to build simple structures.
Why is it that surprising that civilisations on each continent have
discovered the same principles?

Now if you found that the pyramids of each continent used the same
figurative design in their mosaics or an identical cement recipe or
the same carved stone decoration then maybe there is evidence of a
common approach to architecture.

(FWIW, I believe that there was significantly more long distance
communication in the past than is commonly acknowledged but this
*is* just a belief, supported by some evidence but not sufficient
for it to be any more than a tenuous hypothesis at present.)

[Odin2005]

46. This is probably the work...

of the same early agricultural "megalith" culture found from Stonehenge to Malta in Europe before the Indo-Europeans came in. I get sick of people believing in this "they all got it from Atlantis" crap. :crazy:

[Ian David]

38. There's a great Junior Skeptic article in Skeptic Magazine about it

Unfortunately, it's not available online.

You'll need to find a library.

[emad]

9. "Visoko" means high up in serbo-croat....

Love those pre-Theo-Con era solar temples!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. Castles in the air?

First the pre-Illyrian build the temple 27,000 years ago, on top of the pyramid, which wasn't built until 12,000 years ago. Hunh?

[Dead_Parrot]

41. Gotta love those ancient mystics...

...with thier anti-grav temples. Or maybe a time machine...

:crazy:

[alkaline9]

14. if this is true, and no one knew about it...

...until now, then that probably means that there was a mass exodus of the people who used to inhabit this land... makes you wonder what they may uncover.

Its funny how the more we know, the more we realize we DONT know.

Its exciting to speculate, but until there is more proof its hard to get too worked up over this.

[leveymg]

17. Egyptians in Bosnia? Ah ha! We finally found Zarkowi, and Osama must be

around here somewhere. Bet that's him, right there, in disguise.

[IChing]

23. pyramid of monumental size found in Bosnia

Near the city of Visoko, 30 km north of Sarajevo, there is a stone pyramid of monumental size, claims the Bosnian archeologist Semir Osmanagi?, who lives and works in the USA.

After several months of geological and archeological research, Mr. Osmanagi? concluded that under the present hill of Viso?ica hides a stairs-like pyramid, about 12,000 years old. Osmanagi?, who intensively researched on pyramids in Americas, Asia and Africa for the last 15 years and wrote several books on the subject, says he's quite sure he found the first pyramid in Europe, which is quite similar to ones in the Southern America.

He believes that the project would completely change Bosnia's significance in the world of archeology.>>>>snip

http://dino.avdibeg.dk/blog/2005/10/pyramid-found-in-heart-of-bosnia.html

Also from the BBC:

Europe's first pyramid?

Bosnia's leading Muslim daily Dnevni Avaz writes excitedly about "a sensational discovery" of "the first European pyramid" in the central town of Visoko, just north of Sarajevo.

Excavations at a hill site above the town have been going on for several months and initial analyses "have confirmed the original claim that this is Europe's first pyramid and a monumental building, similar in dimensions to the Egyptian pyramids."

"The pyramid is 100 metres high and there is evidence that it contains rooms and a monumental causeway ... The plateau is built of stone blocks, which indicates the presence at the time of a highly developed civilisation," the daily explains.>>>snip

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4377290.stm


Watch Reuters TV-report at Politiken.(danish source but in english)

http://politiken.tv/VisArtikel.iasp?PageID=384103&ExtID=344

[xultar]

24. That is pretty effin kewl. What no one noticed it before?

[IChing]

25. I don't think so ,but it is fricking cool

It doesn't look obvious at first...

I wonder if we could earth google the location to see it from space?

[IChing]

29. coordinates maybe

Latitude 43.98889
Longitude 18.17806

[greyl]

30. Where'd you get the coords?

edit: the white line is 100 metres

[IChing]

31. thanks and now why do we have two threads?

[IChing]

32. this one you can see the video

[greyl]

43. Again, where did you get the coordinates? :) nt

[Freedomfried]

26. Any butts in that pyramid?

I thought this was another prisoner abuse story.

[Igel]

27. But, alas, work had to stop on the site yesterday.

Seems part of it's owned by a guy in Slovenia, and he said "stop". Negotiations continue.
http://www.avaz.ba/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=12392&z=50&isasp=

Gotta love small-country newspapers.

Of course, Visoko means 'high', and Visoèica would be 'high place.' OT allusion not intended in the least.


And, for those that can handle the Croatian ... sorry, "Bosnian" ...
http://www.avaz.ba/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=12377&z=50&isasp=
http://www.avaz.ba/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=12359&z=50&isasp=

[IChing]

28. I can read danish but not bosnian can you help a little with your links?

or for that matter croatian

[Igel]

35. OK, I'll try.

The ol' Croatian's actually ekavski Serbian, and is a bit rusty from disuse. A grad school requirement, it was, before I turned to Czech and Polish.

I'll give highlights, not a translation that would prove embarrassing in its details.
http://www.avaz.ba/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=12359&z=50&isasp=
Visoki's 700 years old. There's the claim the pyramid's made of concrete. Step-like structure; flat platform on top, and a platform 30 m wide in front (called a 'plateau') made of hewn stone.

http://www.avaz.ba/absolutenm/anmviewer.asp?a=12377&z=50&isasp=
Mostly the only new news is 'Look at the Egyptian pyramids! Tourist attraction! We'll be rich and famous! And we have a better climate!'

Um, yeah. Right.

[intheflow]

33. I combined this dup thread

with emad's original post at IChing's request.

[IChing]

34. emad did not have the orginal I did...look at the date

:banghead: :rant:

[intheflow]

36. This is true.

Apologies from a newbie mod, IChing. :hi:

[Up2Late]

39. Amazing how they never noticed it before, it's so obvious

...from this view point.

[semillama]

44. If true, then this is pretty exciting.

although I am instantly suspicious of the claims that it may be related to the pyramids in Mexico and South America. Pyramidal/large mounds aren't that hard an architectural form to come up with.

I will be interested to see if Archaeology magazine reports on this. Usually I hear about stuff like this there or on one of the archaeology news websites I visit, not from a weblog or a newspaper.