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Emperor_Norton_II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:37 AM
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WorldChanging: Lovelock, Sterling and Choosing to Survive
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 02:39 AM by Emperor_Norton_II
http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/004020.html

(Quick recap: Influential environmental scientist James Lovelock recently wrote an editorial for the Independent that said, in effect, we're all screwed. Environmentalist & design guru Bruce Sterling disagreed rather vehemently. This is futurist Jamais Cascio's take on both of 'em. Links to the previous are in the article.)

As much as the Gaia concept helped to spur the consideration of the planet as a system of systems, I must admit to a great deal of sympathy for Bruce's take. Lovelock was once a highly-regarded environmental scientist, but little of that shows in this essay. Instead, he joins the list of apocaphiles, strenuously denying that humans can do anything else but wallow in their own filth and destroy the planet (or, as he describes it, put Gaia into a "morbid fever" for 100,000 years). He expresses great dismay that we've come to this state, but offers neither solutions nor solace, choosing instead to detail some of the awful ways that billions of us will die.

I really dislike apocaphilia.

Apocaphiles tell us that our fate is pre-determined, and that any attempt to avoid it is doomed to failure. They're not simply defeatist, they're positively offended by any suggestion that we might figure out a way to avoid disaster. People who believe that we'll muddle through are accused of having their "heads in the ground;" people who try to change our behavior are derided as "unrealistic;" and people who look for tool-based solutions are castigated for trying for a "techno-fix." The only allowable opinion is that we are lost. There's a distinctly Calvinist flavor to apocaphiles, as they revel in laying out the doom we face because of our own sins, be they environmental, sociological or technological. Ironically, the apocaphile refuses to admit to any human ability to avoid this fate -- we can bring it about, but we can't prevent it, either because the time to do so has long past (i.e., we've left the Garden of Eden) or because we're too greedy/foolish/short-sighted/power-hungry to do so (i.e., we're mired in Original Sin).

I dislike apocaphilia because I believe that deeds can make a difference.

I also dislike apocaphilia because it presumes to predict the future. The truth is, we simply cannot know if we are, in fact, doomed. We may be -- but there's a damn good chance that we aren't, at least if we make an effort to change global conditions. And that, ultimately, is what makes me so irritated at doomsayers: the denial of our ability to make a difference. Tell people over and over that there's nothing that they can do, and eventually they'll start to believe you, making the negative outcome inevitable. I would much rather try to change things for the better and fail than to lie back and just let the world collapse around me.

Lovelock tells us that billions of us will die, that it's too late to stop the end of the world. I say that such an outcome is a choice, one that we need not make.


(Emphasis mine -JN)

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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 02:49 AM
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1. I think BOTH are true
Edited on Sun Jan-22-06 02:49 AM by serryjw
You can't address our environmental problems without addressing the (potential) global economic ( American dollar)collapse and Peak Oil. They are all tied together. We may have no choice but to give up our cars which may give us another decade to solve our environmental problems. IF the dollar does collapse ....all bets may be off. IF the bird flu pandemic hits America we will lose millions anyways....too many unknowns
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Emperor_Norton_II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:04 AM
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2. That... has remarkably little to do with the context of the article.
The question isn't "are all our problems tied together," because we know they are. The question is, "how do we fix it?"

Folks like Dr. Lovelock say that we can't, and we're doomed. Folks like Mr. Cascio - and me - say that we can, it'll be long and hard and probably suck to a great extent, but we can make things better. So which side do you stand on?
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:18 AM
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3. I did answer it
Our dollar/economic collapse and the bird flu are out of our control. We need a strong world economy to fix the environmental problems NOT to mention world leadership that takes it seriously and wants to make it a priority. We got to the Moon because ALL our resources were mobilized by the President down. With a stroke of a pen Bushit could easily say YOU CAN'T drive to work more than 3X a week. People will have to car pool if mass transportation does not exist in your area. I had this discussion with an RTD bus driver. Denver probably has about 700 buses. If Bushit gave the 'states' Federal help we could have every major city 'grided' for buses in less than 2 years...AND SAVE GM & FORD by giving them the bus contracts. You need leadership to solve MAJOR problems..sadly we have none.It took 40 years to CAUSE this problem. I don't know if we can solve it BUT we can slow it down to allow for time to create LONG term solutions.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 03:47 PM
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4. Why choose? We could lose billions, and *also* muddle through!
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Emperor_Norton_II Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 04:00 PM
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5. ...
I really don't have a reply to that.

No, wait. I do have a reply:

That's fucking vile.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-22-06 04:55 PM
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6. I can't argue with that.
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