Quake 'Animal Warnings' Validate Geologist Berkland

[Dover]

Quake 'Animal Warnings' Validate Geologist Berkland
12-31-4

Note - Brilliant California geologist Jim Berkland discovered how to
predict most earthquakes in the 1970's (80+% accuracy) as being factors
of the moon's gravity and tidal flows. He also discovered - and has been
discussing - pre-earthquake 'animal warnings' for over 20 years.
Jim was the first to observe that in virtually every case of a

substantial earthquake in the US, the number of classified newspaper ads
for missing dogs and cats skyrocketed. The building up of hydrostatic and
geologic pressure along fault lines somehow disturbs the magnetic fields
in the area of the quake days in advance...and the 'animal world' reads
those changes clearly. Dogs and cats will often vanish...heading to safer
ground... in the days before a quake.

If organized geology had spent less time being jealous of Berkland's
achievements and ridiculing him for decades, regular earthquake warnings
could have been instituted many years ago. -jr

For further information, be sure to visit Jim Berkland's site at:
http://www.syzygyjob.org

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Animals Sensed Quake/Tsunami In Advance

Times Of India
12-31-4

CUDDALORE -- Five days after the tsunami wreaked havoc across the coastal
region of India, the officials are realising that the number of dead
animals - cattle, goats and dogs - in the killer waves are much fewer
than perhaps seen in calamities such as cyclones and floods.
"Villagers in this part do not tie their animals. This may have helped
them to run away before the waves hit the villages," said an official
overseeing the relief work in Cuddalore district.

An interesting theory that is emerging is that the animals sensed the
tsunami much in advance and it helped them to run away to safer places.
"My three dogs were barking and howling with no reason at around 7 am on
Dec 26. I asked them to keep quiet but they continued barking and were
restless," said Fr PA Sampath Kumar of Holy family church at
Keezputhupattu about 15 km from Pondicherry.

The first waves of the killer tsunami hit Keezhputhupattu about 8.30 am
which was followed by another at 9 am ravaging this fishing village.
"I definitely think that my dogs sensed the tsunami," the priest said.
Interestingly, during the tsunami alert on Thursday, which turned out to
be a false alarm, the dogs showed no signs of panic.

"They were absolutely calm as you can see them now," he said and pointed
to the three dogs- one a cross breed of British Terrier and two cross
breed of Labradors, which were roaming around the church premises, a
temporary relief camp now.

The tsunami killed 600 people across 50-55 villages in Cuddalore district
and Keezputhupattu. There was hardly any trace of a dead cattle, goat or
dogs, said an army jawan involed in removing the debris at the
Devanampattinam fishing village where over 100 death were reported.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/977128.cms

[Journeyman]

1. I remember reading about this back in the '70s. . .

when it was reported the Chinese had used animal warnings and fluctuations in well-water depths to predict quakes. At the time it was discredited by the US press as "Chinese communist propaganda" and the very concept ridiculed as "pseudo-science."

I'm glad to hear now the concept has begun to gain credibility.

[RadicalMom]

2. I got to know Jim Berkland about 7 years ago...he's terrific in his

work and personally. His theories are well documented and he was fired by the USGS when he accurately predicted the 1989 Loma Prieta (also known as the World Series Quake, because it occurred during the series in San Fransisco)Quake. For a lot of interesting info, do visit his website, but stay away from the more general board, and stick with the really quake related ones. Or don't bother with the boards at all. They are not the really interesting things to look into on his site.

[malaise]

3. The Chinese have been using

their relationship with animals to gauge weather patterns for eons.
What Chinese scientists did was confirm centuries of observations by ordinary people. Older civilizations are way more comfortable sharing the planet with other animals and species. They predate Darwin's notions of superiority which have overwhelmed Western thinking in all spheres - to the detriment of every living thing.

edit- gr/sp.

[trotsky]

5. Darwin had nothing to do with it.

It's Christian theology that puts man at the "pinnacle" of creation and bestows upon him dominion over everything.

If anything, evolution tells us we are no more superior than any other creature on earth - just better adapted to a certain environment. "Survival of the fittest" does not mean that only the strong survive, it means if you are more fit for your environment, you are more likely to survive. Big difference.

[malaise]

6. Disagree somewhat

19th century philosophical thinking by many of the Utilitarians (and others) shows that it was more than just christian thinking. Additionally Kipling's white man's burden and the treatment of the 'colonized' spoke volumes.
Yes Kipling's white man was supposedly superior based on pseudo-scientific theories, but he was also 'bringing christianity to the 'so called natives'. John Taylor was christian but he and his kind also believed whites were superior to captured Africans - i.e. the enslaved. Social Darwinism was invoked with regularity to support their version of christianity.

[trotsky]

7. Yes, but "Social Darwinism" is a bastardization of Darwinism.

You can't blame Darwin or the theory of evolution for some idiots who decided to apply it where it does not. Your original criticism knocked "Darwin's notions of superiority" and I simply pointed out there is no such thing.

[malaise]

9. Valid point n/t

[RafterMan]

10. Not really

I agree "there is no such thing" in Darwin, but classical social Darwinism's error is in only examining first-order effects. A successful trade union can be viewed through a social Darwinist prism as effectively as a successful capitalist.

[pmbryant]

4. I don't see any validation here

Is Berkland now making claims that animals can sense a tsunami even when they are too far away to have felt the earthquake? The restless dogs in India were thousands of miles from the earthquake. Are animals supposed to be aware of both tsunamis and earthquakes in advance?

And restless, barking dogs are not exactly a reliable predictor. I have a dog myself, who has never experienced an earthquake, but who still barks and is restless quite often.

Here is a much more plausible hypothesis from the article, if you change "run away before the waves hit", to "outrun the waves": "Villagers in this part do not tie their animals. This may have helped them to run away before the waves hit the villages," said an official overseeing the relief work in Cuddalore district.

--Peter

[lazarus]

8. and we have

3 rats, 2 cats, 1 dog, and bird, none of whom acted peculiar before a big earthquake we had recently, nor during it, nor after it.

On edit: Granted, these are indoor animals who may have had their natural senses tuned down.

My theory on why animals can "predict" major events like this: They have heightened senses (just the five, like the rest of us), and a very very very heightened sense of self-preservation. A deer will bolt and run for a mile at the sound of a twig cracking. (Unless the twig is attached to car with headlights, in which case the deer will leap in front of it.)

As Az put it recently, when humans see or hear or sense something out of the ordinary, the monkey part of our brain wants to go look. The animals, however, simply want to run away.

[RadicalMom]

11. Our animals have "predicted" many natural occurrences. Your

theory about their sensitivities is correct. Jim Berkland's ideas relate to exactly that premise, not some unexplainable psychic message from beyond. Even humans who "predict" earthquakes accurately ( I have done so personally, a couple of times, and that's how I came to know Jim ) I believe are also noticing subtelties that are occurring without knowing why they have the sense that it is coming. Humans are nowhere near as sensitive to smells, vibrations, thought transfer, etc. as animals, but we do it to. The theory is that probably thousands of years ago, humans may have been just as sensitive as animals, but lost that ability over time, as language developed, and as their need for that sensitivity diminished. Also, we are discouraged as children from believing in things such as mental communication, or taught not to pay attention to things we may see, hear, or feel, because too many adults are no longer sensitive enough to experience the same things.

It is intersting to read through Berkland's site, read his newsletters, and see what he actually is saying. I have never seen him give creedence to "barking dogs," as mentioned in the other post. There are many other scientific theories, and he has a list of excellent books on these which he recommends, if people want to study it further. His accuracy rate in predictions far exceeds any other sources to date.

[RadicalMom]

12. Remember when they said the earth resonated like a bell afer that quake?

The earth's rotation was affected? Well, Berkland doesn't ever say that a barking dog predicts anything. He has studied, among other things, the reports of lost animals in areas which have been hit by noteworthy quakes. The number of lost animals ads in the newspaper spikes dramatically days before a major quake, as they go running from it, and not knowing where to run. They take off before thunderstorms, often by several hours, or get nervous and pace or bark, because they hear them way before we do. They can detect smells, undectable by any mechanical instrument, even gasses which supposedly have no smell, and radon gas and methane and other gasses are known to come out of the ground prior to earthquakes and volcano eruptions, often well in advance of the event.

Berkland studies many different statistics, and is known for his predictions based on gravitational pulls on the earth, as well as many other factors, including animal behavior, to arrive at his predictions. His track record is remarkable.Try checking his website.

[Ediacara]

13. The ring like a bell

means that there were shockwaves surrounding the Earth. It isn't something anything but a seismograph can sense. It's less intense than a 1.0 earthquake. If dogs and cats actually got agitated by 1.0 earthquakes, they'd be nervous wrecks 24-7.

[RadicalMom]

14. They often are. It depends on where they are in relation to ground

movement and the sensitivity of the individual animal, and how they react to a given situation. Some are going to react, some are not. There are many good books that delve into this subject, including "When the Snakes Awake." Jim Berkland can refer you to other good references. It is something many people are interested in, and with very good reason. We have shakers here that we feel locally, which never show up on the most detailed quake lists. But you can feel your whole house rumble, and hear your roof tiles and windows rattle, and with no other known reasons (explosions, etc.). How do you know nothing else can sense it but a seismograph? There are a lot of things in the universe that can't be read or explained by machines. Believe what you will. I'm not an evangelist.

[Ediacara]

15. Because < 1.0 quakes are nearly constant

in all areas.