Is it really you or jamais vu? (opposite of deja vu)

[Dover]

This might explain why living in the 'new normal' of the Bushies seems like some other dimension...


Is it really you or jamais vu?

ABC Science Online
Wednesday, 19 July 2006


If you're confronted with a familiar situation that seems oddly unrecognisable, you could be suffering from jamais vu.


The first scientific study of jamais vu, the reverse of déjà vu, has shown that the experience exists and can be induced, an international memory conference has heard.

Jamais vu literally means "never seen" and describes the sense of unfamiliarity in the face of very familiar things or situations, says UK researcher Dr Chris Moulin of the University of Leeds.

"If you stare at a word, for instance, it loses its meaning," says Moulin, who adds that an estimated 60% of people have experienced jamais vu.

He presented his research for the first time at the 4th International Conference on Memory in Sydney this week.

Jamais vu is the opposite of déjà vu, or "already seen", which is a sense of familiarity about an unfamiliar object, or the feeling that "I've been here before"...cont'd

http://abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s1689668.htm

[murielm99]

1. And here I thought

I was having mere senior moments.

[bananas]

2. stronger form of j'amais vu 'this can't be happening!" "je n'amais pas!"

It's interesting that in the article, the term "deja vu" has the appropriate diacritical marks, but "j'amais" is denoted "jamais" with any abbreviation or diacritical marking.

[MADem]

3. I'm no expert, but I thought the word was jamais, without any

apostrophe, like one does when combining je with a verb that starts with a vowel.

Any seasoned French speakers here???

[bananas]

4. I could be wrong

I'm plastered.

[bananas]

5. Bien sur que oui! C'est "ne jamais pas!"

[MADem]

9. Well, good enough then, that's sorted!!

bottoms up, eh? :toast:

[tocqueville]

14. OK some French lesson here

French NEGATIONS come in two words placed around the verb

ne (verb) pas = not
ne (verb) jamais = never

"ne jamais pas" is incorrect since it would be a meaningless double negation

jamais ALONE is an ADVERB and translates normally by "never"

[Tesha]

13. "Jamias" is "never". "Jamais vu" is "never seen". D'accord? (NT)

[pecwae]

6. TLE

Temporal Lobe Epilepsy casued me much jamais vu grief in the past. Ex. I would go to the ladie's room, stand there and repeat the words on the sign, then go into the men's room anyway. I would look at my license tag, start writing it down, look at the results and they were nowhere near what my tag read. I knew I was screwing up, but couldn't control it. Neurontin has it under control, but every couple of years I have to increase the dosage to keep this disconnect from reality at bay.

[Bolo Boffin]

7. It must be terribly frustrating for you, pecwac.

Keep doing the best you can do! :)

[MADem]

8. Jeez, that has gotta be tough to deal with

Was it the sort of thing where you could NEVER make the connection, or would something snap into place and then you'd "get it." Could you go away, come back, and then lock on?

I'm glad you have medication that mitigates the "short circuit" or whatever is going on there. Stay well.

[pecwae]

10. Most of the time

I would 'get it' hours after the incident. Then, go "Oh, shit!" I went into the men's room again! Luckily, I could 'get it' most of the time and was able to report it to my doc who went on to make the diagnosis.

[MADem]

11. I imagine there was a bit of tittering going on in that men's room!!!

You might have flattered some of those old boys, who might have thought you found them charming!

Seriously, though, I'm glad your doctor was able to sort you out. That sounds like something that could be very frightening to deal with.

[Nevernose]

12. From the movie "Groundhog Day:" Do you ever have deja vu?

"I don't know. I'll go ask in the kitchen."
:)