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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:22 PM
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The Science Of Collective Consciousness
The Science Of Collective Consciousness

by Robert Kenny



With more and more people talking about collective consciousness, it seems natural to wonder, Is there any scientific research to back it up? The answer, increasingly, appears to be “yes.” In fact, a growing body of recent research suggests not only that a field of awareness and intelligence exists between human beings but also that through it we influence each other in powerful ways.

Just as Gene Roddenberry imagined a future in which Star Trek's Spock could “mind meld” with others, more of us are now becoming aware of our remarkable capacity to intuit each other's thoughts and emotions, as well as to consciously think and create together without communicating through the five senses. Collective consciousness becomes most apparent in our ability to intuitively sense and work with the interactions between our and others' physical, emotional, mental, and spiritual “energy fields.” Although science has long been convinced of the existence of gravitational, electric, and magnetic fields, significant research in the frontier science known as parapsychology, or the study of psychic (“psi”) phenomena, indicates that other types of fields—including thought fields—may also exist.

A fundamental psi phenomenon is extrasensory perception or influence, perhaps made possible by the apparent ability of consciousness to operate beyond the constraints of space and time. Examples include telepathy and remote viewing. The existence of psi (or tele-prehension, as Ken Wilber calls it) has been convincingly demonstrated in numerous scientific studies carried out by Marilyn Schlitz, Dean Radin, and others. In typical remote viewing experiments, for example, one individual is sent to a distant, undisclosed location while another individual, who remains in the lab, attempts to “remotely view” and describe that distant location in detail. Across a large number of experiments, remote viewers have been able to describe another's surroundings with a statistically significant degree of accuracy. Intriguingly, pairs who had an emotional bond have obtained the strongest results. These findings suggest that groups whose members build a sense of connection and trust with each other may have an increased capacity to access and understand each other's perspectives, to “see through each other's eyes.” ...cont'd

http://www.wie.org/j25/kenny.asp



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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:35 PM
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1. I always thought that the collective conscious was..
all of the knowlege that we knew consciously..info that we all knew that we knew..history,research,etc. and that the collective unconscious was what you have described. Has this changed?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:46 PM
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3. I believe it has to do with making the unconscious....conscious
collectively speaking. Check out Jung's work on this.
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murray hill farm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:41 PM
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6. My definition came from my understanding of jung..but..
my field was psychology..i am retired now from work as a private practice psychologist...and i know how quickly a discriptive wording of an idea can change..so, was wondering. My personal belief..and i really cannot remember if this came from jung, but i believed that it was something that would evolve in time..in that what was the collective conscious would begin to include the collective unconscious more and more as we evolved as humans. There have been some interesting studies..and i am sure there are more by now..i have been retired for four years...and am sort of out of the keeping up with it business. are you familiar with other recent studies?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:51 PM
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7. No, that is not my field and my personal studies of Jung's work are
not recent, so you are way ahead in that department.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:37 PM
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2. If this is so
Why don't we send the truth to the red states,send what we see into thier eyes,so they will feel,focus on developing thier empathy,and send them inmages replete with emotions about the horror that America is become and send it to red states via our part of our collective consiousness.
If this is so,than we need to stop with the parlor tricks,and newage games and lightworker fuzzy wuzzy bullshit and use this attention and techique to awaken the cold deluded,neocon heart,our very existance may depend on making authoritarians give up the persuit of control..
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mojaverose Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:04 PM
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4. One Mind
I decided when I was about 15 years old that there is only one mind, and we all use it.
How else explain the phenomena that names for children become popular out of the blue, or that inventions are never single, but pop up in several places at the same time, when Nobody had thought about it before?
I know that religionists and scientists don't like my theory, because it supposedly demeans the importance of the individual. But, if each individual is impacting that mind equally, I don't see any contradiction. In fact, if you think of the Body as fingers on a hand it makes perfectly good sense.

Before anybody guffaws, let me say that, one day when I was 8 I was staring at the map in school. My teacher asked me what I was thinking that had taken me so far away from the class. I told her that I was wondering if all the continents were, at one time, one big continent. If you move South America it fits under Africa, India fits between Asia and Australia, etc. Her response I will never forget. "If that isn't the Dumbest Idea I ever heard!"

So, who guffaws last?
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:54 PM
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8. Welcome to DU mojaverose! I hope that teacher retired shortly after
that! Although I think Einstein must have had his share of bad teachers and it didn't stop him.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 09:00 AM
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13. Distributed systems, links, does it really matter?
Whether it's a single shared mind that we all (potentially) tap into
or a network of links between separate minds, the difference is not
that great. I picture it as a dynamic network of links but viewing
it as a single entity that is shared is not really that different ...

> Before anybody guffaws, let me say that, one day when I was 8 I was
> staring at the map in school. My teacher asked me what I was thinking
> that had taken me so far away from the class. I told her that I was
> wondering if all the continents were, at one time, one big continent.
> If you move South America it fits under Africa, India fits between
> Asia and Australia, etc. Her response I will never forget. "If that
> isn't the Dumbest Idea I ever heard!"

I had a similar "revelation" when I was young but (fortunately?) at
home rather than at school. As a result, it led to a fascinating
discussion with my much older brother - once he got over the surprise
that I was apparently following Wegener's footsteps whilst still at
junior school. I received encouragement in response to my "childish"
reasoning rather than the ridicule from your teacher but at least you
still had the courage to retain independence of thought!

:hi:
Nihil
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 05:04 PM
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15. Your example is a beautiful allegory re: open and closed minds
and who personifies the driving force in our expansion of our understanding.
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DELUSIONAL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:21 PM
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5. This has been part of Anthropology research for years
There are many examples of weapons -- spear head or arrow points that have been developed independently by tribes who had no contact with each other. And the origins myths -- many have very similar elements.

One aspect of humans -- empathy -- the care of disabled individuals has been found in diverse cultures. The burial of extremely handicapped individuals who lived to a later age than would be expected and then they were buried with great care.

Jung was certainly one to have put words to this human trait -- collective unconscious. Many branches of Anthropology/Archeology have journals with lots of research articles on this subject.

I think the way that bushie is succeeding with his "base" is that he is able to tap in to the evil part of the collective unconscious. Plus the fact that the world is being overpopulated with humans -- the fight for fewer resources is going to get nasty. Plus the fact that you are confronted with the anonymous in mass societies -- bush or his handlers have tapped into the dark side of human nature. I believe if we look back on major civilizations -- when they went to the dark side -- they didn't last long -- or this was the last phase of their particular civilization. Easter Island comes to mind.

Anthropology is my great love -- and I wrote a paper for a theory class on Collective Unconscious. It is a topic that has held my interest long since I handed in that paper.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 10:39 AM
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14. Archeology does not support this hogwash
Statisticians will tell you that out of a worldwide population of 1 million (a low estimate for stone-age modern man), you are very likely to have three or four people come up with a very similar idea in coping with a similar problem. The fact that people think alike when tackling problems is more evidence of evolution than it could ever be for collective consciousness. Your particular example of arrow points is more likely evidence of discovering the best or most efficient design than of some ephemeral connection to someone 10,000 miles away.

Occam's razor, man.

And this doesn't take into account that in the era of arrow points, cultures were only isolated by the oceans. Technology, following even the slowest cultural connections and trade routes, could no doubt pass from the African plains to Archangel in 100 years - merely a blip on the archeological timeline.

Until Archeology can know difinitively through hard evidence exactly how these technologies developed, all it can say is that it did develop. The rest is speculation, assumption and inference.
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gottaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:51 PM
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9. Emile Durkheim was not a scientist, but Schlitz, Radin et al are?
I'll file this under fetishization.
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indigobusiness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:08 AM
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10. Morphic fields: Morphic fields can now be measured scientifically!
Edited on Mon Jan-31-05 12:10 AM by indigobusiness
In the laboratory of Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) at Princeton University/USA, research on the topic "mind-machine-interaction" has been ongoing since the late 1970s. As far back as the late 80s, extensive studies proved that diodes with white noise might be used as an interface between man and machine. Since 1998, worldwide about 50 such diodes with white noise have been measuring not only the consciousness of individuals but also the global consciousness of mankind within a study called "Global Consciousness Project". The results have been published and indicate synchronized reaction of all diodes to incidents of worldwide interest such as the war in Iraq, Lady Diana’s funeral or the terrorist attacks of September 11th 2001 on the World Trade Centre in New York.

http://www.experiencefestival.com/a/Morphic_fields/id/10320

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/2.html

http://home.earthlink.net/~davebru/consciousness.htm
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 12:44 AM
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11. Sheldrake?
The first scientist mentioned in the article is Sheldrake? And we're supposed to take this seriously?
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-31-05 04:29 AM
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12. i think you've got the wrong forum
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:04 PM
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16. Putting "science" in the title
doesn't make it so. This has nothing to do with science.
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