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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 07:45 AM
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Rupture, not Rapture

The Real (or unreal, or antireal) end of times

http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/big_rip_030306.html
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 08:05 AM
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1. good morning Spin!
Interesting article!

I love this sentence:

>
At this point, there is still a short interval before atoms and even their nuclei break apart. "There's about 30 minutes left," Caldwell said, "But it's not quality time."
>

Could there be any relation to the "invisible" universe in the article below? I'm just trying to get educated and any knowledge you can pass along I am grateful to have. Thanks.


http://news.scotsman.com/scitech.cfm?id=203962005


Have a peaceful day.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 08:20 AM
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2. Just time to 'kiss your atoms goodbye'

I'm not entirely clear on 'Dark Matter'

It seems rather Terra-centric to consider visibility in a particular part of the electromagnetic spectrum - so-called 'visible light' - as a crtiteria for deparating things into Dark Matter and undark. Were the sun different and/or the earth different, we might be 'seeing' in other parts of the spectrum.

The radio waves used to detect that galaxy are just as much elctromagnetic and governed by Einsteins laws as the visible light we normally see galaxies through.

We're just a bunch of Electromagnetic bigots, perhaps.

I think that Dark Energy is ultimately more interesting and critical because it reflects a extension to the model of the forces governing the universe - as we yet do not know it.


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Bill McBlueState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 11:48 AM
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4. dark matter
But the dark matter hasn't been detected at any wavelength, which is what they're getting at. Our only knowledge of dark matter comes from its gravitational effect on things whose electromagnetic radiation we *can* detect.
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-05 02:54 PM
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5. Since the electromagnetic spectrum is

theoretically infinite, it's questionable whether every wavelength has been examined.

Though obviously the extremes are problematic and esoteric possibilities to say the least.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-05 09:04 AM
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3. and if that doesn't pissoff the fundies enough
"The new data show the universe to be 13.7 billion years old, to within 200 million
years, Bennett said. That figure has been estimated and re-estimated many times, but
often with wide margins of error."
http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/map_discovery_030211.html

Maintain the intention to expand.
T.Golas, Lazy Man's Guide to Enlightenment
http://www.lcars.eu.org/sarah.peter.nelson/lazyman/lazyman.html#contents

dp
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