raccoon
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:34 PM
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Why do nails start to work their way up on an outside deck after a while? |
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Or is it the wood shrinking away from the nail? :shrug:
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:35 PM
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1. That is the wood seeking equilibrium. |
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Also, just as temperature changes expand and contract concrete, same goes with wood (and every other material).
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Cronus Protagonist
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:36 PM
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2. Pressure from walking on them and the warp of weather damage |
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Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 02:36 PM by Cronus Protagonist
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:37 PM
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3. Expansion and contraction |
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is my guess. My neighbors have a deck made of the wood composite planks and this doesn't seem to be an issue, 4 years after they had it built.
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:37 PM
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4. The shrinking and expanding of the wood does that... |
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just get yer hammer and go bang em back down every few months. :)
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:37 PM
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5. That's what nails are paid to do. |
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Sun May-04-08 04:24 PM
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15. ...and if they are two-penny nails, they do it cheaper /nt |
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:38 PM
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6. The natural expansion/contraction cycle of the wood slowly forces them out. |
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Occasionally, boards will actually WARP upwards, lifting the nail, and then relax back down again, leaving it standing proud.
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:42 PM
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7. The wood does shrink some when it cools and so does the nail but not as much! |
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Each time the temperature rises, the wood which has a lower coefficient of thermal expansion gives the nail a tiny "push" which is toward the 'outside', or the path of least resistance. Over years, a nail can actually get pushed all the way out! We fight the problem with our deck...hammering the nails back in is a very temporary solution because the hole is already there and so the wood hasn't much ability to grab the nail. :-)
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:44 PM
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:47 PM
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9. because it really is personal for nails -- they ARE out to get you. nt |
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Mon Apr-07-08 02:51 PM
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10. Is it possible to replace them with screws? |
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My FIL tried this solution, he got several more years use out of that deck.
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Tue Apr-08-08 07:55 AM
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Wed Apr-30-08 06:43 PM
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13. Use zinc galvanised screws. Esp if the wood is treated. |
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Cadmium plated screws will rust out in no time flat in treated timbers.
Screws are definitely the go if installing a new deck.
In an existing deck, pull each nail as it stands proud and replace with a screw.
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Mon May-05-08 07:04 PM
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16. Some decking now uses concealed clips rather than face-screwing/face-nailing. (NT) |
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Mon Apr-07-08 04:23 PM
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11. Probably just a case of slow "slip-stick" motion. nt |
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Sat May-03-08 04:50 PM
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14. Cuz some idiot built it using straight new nail instead of old bent ones |
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Straight new nails go in easy and come right back out easy, too
It takes more skill to hammer in an old bent nail, but it will stay in place
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