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groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:22 AM
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About Death, Just Like Us or Pretty Much Unaware?
As anybody who has grieved inconsolably over the death of a loved one can attest, extended mourning is, in part, a perverse kind of optimism. Surely this bottomless, unwavering sorrow will amount to something, goes the tape loop. Surely if I keep it up long enough I’ll accomplish my goal, and the person will stop being dead.

Last week the Internet and European news outlets were flooded with poignant photographs of Gana, an 11-year-old gorilla at the Münster Zoo in Germany, holding up the body of her dead baby, Claudio, and pursing her lips toward his lifeless fingers. Claudio died at the age of 3 months of an apparent heart defect, and for days Gana refused to surrender his corpse to zookeepers, a saga that provoked among her throngs of human onlookers admiration and compassion and murmurings that, you see? Gorillas, and probably a lot of other animals as well, have a grasp of their mortality and will grieve for the dead and are really just like us after all.

Nobody knows what emotions swept through Gana’s head and heart as she persisted in cradling and nuzzling the remains of her son. But primatologists do know this: Among nearly all species of apes and monkeys in the wild, a mother will react to the death of her infant as Gana did — by clutching the little decedent to her breast and treating it as though it were still alive. For days or even weeks afterward, she will take it with her everywhere and fight off anything that threatens to snatch it away. “The only time I was ever mobbed by langurs was when I tried to inspect a baby corpse,” said the primatologist Sarah Hrdy. Only gradually will she allow the distance between herself and the ever-gnarlier carcass to grow.

Yes, we’re a lot like other primates, particularly the great apes, with whom we have more than 98 percent of our genes in common. Yet elaborate displays of apparent maternal grief like Gana’s may reveal less about our shared awareness of death than our shared impulse to act as though it didn’t exist. Dr. Hrdy, author of “Mother Nature” and the coming “Mothers and Others,” said it made adaptive sense for a primate mother to hang onto her motionless baby and keep her hopes high for a while. “If the baby wasn’t dead, but temporarily comatose, because it was sick or fallen from the tree, well, it might come back to life,” Dr. Hrdy said. “We’re talking about primates who have singleton births after long periods of gestation. Each baby represents an enormous investment for the mother.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/02/science/02angi.html?th&emc=th
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 11:30 AM
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1. We only pretend that other sentient beings cannot think or feel
so that we can exploit them.
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Evoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-02-08 12:40 PM
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2. That's very interesting. I firmly believe that many of our emotional reactions are like this.
Almost instinctual, with a man-made layer of justification and rationalization. What we perceive as aspects of our personalities and emotion...sorrow, happiness, anger...have less to do with our "soul" (which does not exist) and more do with evolutionarily advantageous behaviour.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:24 AM
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3. "our shared impulse to act as though it (death) didn’t exist"
And thus is born the elaborate self-deluding fantasy of religion.
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n2doc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 05:56 PM
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4. I think my pet rats are aware when they start to die
The want out of their age and go to their favorite place if I let them. They get pretty frantic about it.

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